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	<title>Comments on: 22 Reasons Why The SciFi Channel&#8217;s Ghost Hunter Is More Believable Than Travel Channel&#8217;s Most Haunted</title>
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		<title>By: idunno</title>
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		<dc:creator>idunno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 04:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I admit that I watch Ghost Hunters regularly, Most Haunted... well the second I see a &quot;medium&quot; getting &quot;feelings&quot; and being &quot;possessed&quot; ... I turn the channel.

I do admit that Ghost Hunters seemed to have an honest approach and be semi-legit... however... They started loosing it on the last season that I watched. When you get to the point where you can communicate with &quot;ghosts&quot; via a &quot;K2&quot; meter on a regular basis, that&#039;s when I start to call Shenanigans. They now have full blown conversations with &quot;ghosts&quot; every episode and I really don&#039;t think it works like that in the real world. Seriously, how hard would it be to have someone in the next room turn on a microwave... or whatever... and make that little meter light up like a Christmas tree. As for the EVPs... I would really like to know what frequency they record on because there are tons of radio signals bouncing around from cell phones, CB&#039;s, cordless phones, wireless mics, radios, intercoms, walkie talkies, etc. all around us, all of the time.

I have also noticed that they used to do a lot of investigations in peoples homes and many times not find anything. Now I notice that nearly every investigation is conveniently located in a failing hotel, inn, bed &amp; breakfast, battleship, lighthouse, museum bar or other service related, tourist attraction that would benefit greatly from being &quot;haunted&quot; and they almost always say that &quot;We definitely think that there&#039;s some kind of paranormal activity here...&quot;

I am extremely skeptical about anything known as &quot;reality TV&quot;. Like it or not, you eventually have to come to the realization that they HAVE TO find &quot;ghosts&quot; sooner or later, otherwise, they wont have a TV show. When a person, or better yet film crew &amp; entire production company start to tell &quot;little white lies&quot; it&#039;s amazing how quickly they turn into great, big black ugly lies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I admit that I watch Ghost Hunters regularly, Most Haunted&#8230; well the second I see a &#8220;medium&#8221; getting &#8220;feelings&#8221; and being &#8220;possessed&#8221; &#8230; I turn the channel.</p>
<p>I do admit that Ghost Hunters seemed to have an honest approach and be semi-legit&#8230; however&#8230; They started loosing it on the last season that I watched. When you get to the point where you can communicate with &#8220;ghosts&#8221; via a &#8220;K2&#8243; meter on a regular basis, that&#8217;s when I start to call Shenanigans. They now have full blown conversations with &#8220;ghosts&#8221; every episode and I really don&#8217;t think it works like that in the real world. Seriously, how hard would it be to have someone in the next room turn on a microwave&#8230; or whatever&#8230; and make that little meter light up like a Christmas tree. As for the EVPs&#8230; I would really like to know what frequency they record on because there are tons of radio signals bouncing around from cell phones, CB&#8217;s, cordless phones, wireless mics, radios, intercoms, walkie talkies, etc. all around us, all of the time.</p>
<p>I have also noticed that they used to do a lot of investigations in peoples homes and many times not find anything. Now I notice that nearly every investigation is conveniently located in a failing hotel, inn, bed &amp; breakfast, battleship, lighthouse, museum bar or other service related, tourist attraction that would benefit greatly from being &#8220;haunted&#8221; and they almost always say that &#8220;We definitely think that there&#8217;s some kind of paranormal activity here&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>I am extremely skeptical about anything known as &#8220;reality TV&#8221;. Like it or not, you eventually have to come to the realization that they HAVE TO find &#8220;ghosts&#8221; sooner or later, otherwise, they wont have a TV show. When a person, or better yet film crew &amp; entire production company start to tell &#8220;little white lies&#8221; it&#8217;s amazing how quickly they turn into great, big black ugly lies.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 01:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes it is. They have been debunked several times and their Halloween 2008 is so fake and pathetic it has ruined the show for me. Go to youtube and look at the videos debunking that show...it&#039;s sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes it is. They have been debunked several times and their Halloween 2008 is so fake and pathetic it has ruined the show for me. Go to youtube and look at the videos debunking that show&#8230;it&#8217;s sad.</p>
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		<title>By: muchgooder</title>
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		<dc:creator>muchgooder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 20:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do find it funny that the premise of this article is to compare Ghost Hunters with Most Haunted. That&#039;s like comparing Hitler with Bush - just because one is really really bad it doesn&#039;t make the other one good.

Do I think Ghost Hunters fakes stuff?  No, I don&#039;t.  For them to fake something implies that I&#039;ve seen anything on their show that was impressive in any way.  What is the single most impressive thing you&#039;ve seen?  The skeptic sites have debunked this show over and over.

What I will accuse them of is not being completley honest about their show.  Lets take their recent fascination with the K2 Meter.  In several episodes they&#039;ve been amazed at the responses that they&#039;ve supposedly gotten.  If they were in fact talking to ghosts, wouldn&#039;t that be the greatest advance in science in the history of mankind?  Of course it would be.  But what do they do? Treat it as some kind of run-of-the-mill proof and move on.  Huh?  

So at the end of the day all they have are things that always seem to happen just off camera and completely inaudible noises on audio tapes.  If you saw the Penn and Teller episode on ghost hunters you would know that world-class scientists said that EVP meters could not be more ridiculous and that all of the scientific methods they use could not be less scientific if they tried. 

Think about it.  At the end of the day nobody has ever proved that there is an afterlife.  Nobody! This show lulls people into the belief that they&#039;re skeptics because they disprove some of the obvious stuff while leaving other stuff wide open.  That&#039;s smart business but not real ghost hunting.  If they wanted to be taken seriously they would bring along a skeptic and release their &quot;evidence&quot; to the public.  After all, their goal is to find proof, isn&#039;t it?  And of course, they never will

Here is my own blog on this subject:  http://www.muchgooder.com/home/adam.nsf/lookupcontentbykey/debunking_ghost_hunters</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do find it funny that the premise of this article is to compare Ghost Hunters with Most Haunted. That&#8217;s like comparing Hitler with Bush &#8211; just because one is really really bad it doesn&#8217;t make the other one good.</p>
<p>Do I think Ghost Hunters fakes stuff?  No, I don&#8217;t.  For them to fake something implies that I&#8217;ve seen anything on their show that was impressive in any way.  What is the single most impressive thing you&#8217;ve seen?  The skeptic sites have debunked this show over and over.</p>
<p>What I will accuse them of is not being completley honest about their show.  Lets take their recent fascination with the K2 Meter.  In several episodes they&#8217;ve been amazed at the responses that they&#8217;ve supposedly gotten.  If they were in fact talking to ghosts, wouldn&#8217;t that be the greatest advance in science in the history of mankind?  Of course it would be.  But what do they do? Treat it as some kind of run-of-the-mill proof and move on.  Huh?  </p>
<p>So at the end of the day all they have are things that always seem to happen just off camera and completely inaudible noises on audio tapes.  If you saw the Penn and Teller episode on ghost hunters you would know that world-class scientists said that EVP meters could not be more ridiculous and that all of the scientific methods they use could not be less scientific if they tried. </p>
<p>Think about it.  At the end of the day nobody has ever proved that there is an afterlife.  Nobody! This show lulls people into the belief that they&#8217;re skeptics because they disprove some of the obvious stuff while leaving other stuff wide open.  That&#8217;s smart business but not real ghost hunting.  If they wanted to be taken seriously they would bring along a skeptic and release their &#8220;evidence&#8221; to the public.  After all, their goal is to find proof, isn&#8217;t it?  And of course, they never will</p>
<p>Here is my own blog on this subject:  <a href="http://www.muchgooder.com/home/adam.nsf/lookupcontentbykey/debunking_ghost_hunters" rel="nofollow">http://www.muchgooder.com/home/adam.nsf/lookupcontentbykey/debunking_ghost_hunters</a></p>
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		<title>By: Matt Houston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Houston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 03:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ya&#039;ll are all crazy, and this Ghost Hunter show sucks!!!!!!! FAKE. You are all so gullible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ya&#8217;ll are all crazy, and this Ghost Hunter show sucks!!!!!!! FAKE. You are all so gullible.</p>
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		<title>By: david cicle</title>
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		<dc:creator>david cicle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 01:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok i know people out there believe the Ghost Hunters might be fake, like the person who has the links with the pics of the soldier looking thing on the door with the #2 on the arm, jason and Grant both said they cant explain it. They never said it was GHOST PERIOD!! They said it was unexplainable!
They are not Photograph experts or specialized technicians of any kind. They are Plumbers who happened to get a TV show after years of doing this. yes they Are executive directors of the show now, but the first few years they were not and they would say in public they were considering leaving the show because the crew kept screwing up evidence.

I am a fan of the show. I have met the guys as well. They are cool and will seriously answer any question you want on the subject of ghost hunting and their experiences. Go to one of the events and find out. They arent rock stars and they dont act like it either. Ok thats my 2 cents. And sorry for the bad grammer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok i know people out there believe the Ghost Hunters might be fake, like the person who has the links with the pics of the soldier looking thing on the door with the #2 on the arm, jason and Grant both said they cant explain it. They never said it was GHOST PERIOD!! They said it was unexplainable!<br />
They are not Photograph experts or specialized technicians of any kind. They are Plumbers who happened to get a TV show after years of doing this. yes they Are executive directors of the show now, but the first few years they were not and they would say in public they were considering leaving the show because the crew kept screwing up evidence.</p>
<p>I am a fan of the show. I have met the guys as well. They are cool and will seriously answer any question you want on the subject of ghost hunting and their experiences. Go to one of the events and find out. They arent rock stars and they dont act like it either. Ok thats my 2 cents. And sorry for the bad grammer.</p>
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		<title>By: Parris Morgan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Parris Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 16:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have had two paranormal experiences, so I do believe there is some connection between our reality and some other. I watched Ghosthunters from day one and after two seasons I couldn&#039;t watch it any more. There are two few &quot;payoffs&quot; and we hear too much, &quot;something brushed by me, did you hear that or Oh My God&quot; comments coming from the investigators. I don&#039;t know these people, so why should I believe them. They want the show to be sucessful for obvious reasons. The main thing that has bothered me about all the &quot;ghost finding&quot; shows is the equipment they use. They all use digital audio and video setups. The general public hears &quot;digital&quot; and they think &quot;perfect&quot;. People see cool laptops and hear all this psuedo tech talk which has an impression of true scientific research. I&#039;m a professional sound engineer who has workied in radio and tv for 30 years and I have found that digital is not perfect. One needs very sophisticated and expensive mics and recorders to capture whats truly in front of the mic or camera. The cheap stuff, like what Ghosthunters and the other shows use, can and will introduce &quot;artifacts&quot; that distort the final product; especially during the transfer and postproduction process. Analog audio tape would be a more reliable medium to use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have had two paranormal experiences, so I do believe there is some connection between our reality and some other. I watched Ghosthunters from day one and after two seasons I couldn&#8217;t watch it any more. There are two few &#8220;payoffs&#8221; and we hear too much, &#8220;something brushed by me, did you hear that or Oh My God&#8221; comments coming from the investigators. I don&#8217;t know these people, so why should I believe them. They want the show to be sucessful for obvious reasons. The main thing that has bothered me about all the &#8220;ghost finding&#8221; shows is the equipment they use. They all use digital audio and video setups. The general public hears &#8220;digital&#8221; and they think &#8220;perfect&#8221;. People see cool laptops and hear all this psuedo tech talk which has an impression of true scientific research. I&#8217;m a professional sound engineer who has workied in radio and tv for 30 years and I have found that digital is not perfect. One needs very sophisticated and expensive mics and recorders to capture whats truly in front of the mic or camera. The cheap stuff, like what Ghosthunters and the other shows use, can and will introduce &#8220;artifacts&#8221; that distort the final product; especially during the transfer and postproduction process. Analog audio tape would be a more reliable medium to use.</p>
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		<title>By: daphne</title>
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		<dc:creator>daphne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 08:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve believed in ghosts all my life but think that Ghosthunters is fake.  I&#039;ve always thought they were fake.  From the way they treat people who join their online forums (arbitrarily banning people with alternative explanations) to the fact that they will never 1.) show anyone all their footage and 2.) get a third party reference, the show has no luster for me.

Here are two links to read.  The second one shows step by step how someone could fake some of their &quot;proof&quot;.

http://www.skeptic.com/eskeptic/06-08-10.html

http://www.ultimatetechlinks.com/CrescentHotelAnalysis.html

I&#039;ve seem some wonderful things on the internet over they years online, pictures, videos, evps, that have been truly awesome.  Ghosthunters has never shown me anything that I found to be that interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve believed in ghosts all my life but think that Ghosthunters is fake.  I&#8217;ve always thought they were fake.  From the way they treat people who join their online forums (arbitrarily banning people with alternative explanations) to the fact that they will never 1.) show anyone all their footage and 2.) get a third party reference, the show has no luster for me.</p>
<p>Here are two links to read.  The second one shows step by step how someone could fake some of their &#8220;proof&#8221;.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.skeptic.com/eskeptic/06-08-10.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.skeptic.com/eskeptic/06-08-10.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.ultimatetechlinks.com/CrescentHotelAnalysis.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.ultimatetechlinks.com/CrescentHotelAnalysis.html</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seem some wonderful things on the internet over they years online, pictures, videos, evps, that have been truly awesome.  Ghosthunters has never shown me anything that I found to be that interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Melody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 04:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you completely.  I can say one thing.  If Ghosthunters is a fake then they do a better job of it than Most Haunted.  I was very disappointed in the Most Haunted live investigation at Gettysburg this year.  As a Civil War historian I don&#039;t believe they respected the property very much and the bangs that you heard all through the night sounded suspiciously like a broom handle being pounded into a ceiling.  Also, everytime Most Haunted has &quot;evidence&quot; like a voice, or something other than a bump, they talk over it, or their soundtrack music is conveniently louder at that point, so you never actually hear -anything-.  Everytime they catch an &quot;EVP&quot; you can only hear dead air.  I like the way that Ghosthunters is produced and I like the way they handle it.  Very professional crew.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you completely.  I can say one thing.  If Ghosthunters is a fake then they do a better job of it than Most Haunted.  I was very disappointed in the Most Haunted live investigation at Gettysburg this year.  As a Civil War historian I don&#8217;t believe they respected the property very much and the bangs that you heard all through the night sounded suspiciously like a broom handle being pounded into a ceiling.  Also, everytime Most Haunted has &#8220;evidence&#8221; like a voice, or something other than a bump, they talk over it, or their soundtrack music is conveniently louder at that point, so you never actually hear -anything-.  Everytime they catch an &#8220;EVP&#8221; you can only hear dead air.  I like the way that Ghosthunters is produced and I like the way they handle it.  Very professional crew.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 05:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn&#039;t agree more. Ghosthunters is based on the premise of debunking claims, Most Haunted, and most of the other clones are just looking to find ANYTHING.
   Even if Most Haunted isn&#039;t all fake, they are the worst investigators ever. I liken them to Scooby Doo. They go hunting for ghosts, and when anything at all happens, they run screaming from the area. Hilarious, but not serious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree more. Ghosthunters is based on the premise of debunking claims, Most Haunted, and most of the other clones are just looking to find ANYTHING.<br />
   Even if Most Haunted isn&#8217;t all fake, they are the worst investigators ever. I liken them to Scooby Doo. They go hunting for ghosts, and when anything at all happens, they run screaming from the area. Hilarious, but not serious.</p>
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		<title>By: samantha thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>samantha thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 13:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i live a mile from llanchaiach fawr manor in South Wales UK which was shown on an episode of most haunted. series 2 i think. i recently did a ghost tour of the place and the people working there said derek is a fake because he was in the history information room for an hour before walking around the manor and he gave the exact information for each person that they had history about up on the walls there..... people like derek make me angry ... FAKES!!! during our ghost tour we heard a child running in the room above us. there was one room which everytime i tried enter i would get terrible stomach cramp pains which stopped when i went back out but my tummy felt tender like i&#039;d done 100 or so stomach crunches for days later. my camera refused to work an hour into tour even changing batteries 3 times it still wouldnt work... the last picture i took before my camera stopped working has loads of faces in.. very scary... check them out and please feel free to email with question.. 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/29656032@N08/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i live a mile from llanchaiach fawr manor in South Wales UK which was shown on an episode of most haunted. series 2 i think. i recently did a ghost tour of the place and the people working there said derek is a fake because he was in the history information room for an hour before walking around the manor and he gave the exact information for each person that they had history about up on the walls there&#8230;.. people like derek make me angry &#8230; FAKES!!! during our ghost tour we heard a child running in the room above us. there was one room which everytime i tried enter i would get terrible stomach cramp pains which stopped when i went back out but my tummy felt tender like i&#8217;d done 100 or so stomach crunches for days later. my camera refused to work an hour into tour even changing batteries 3 times it still wouldnt work&#8230; the last picture i took before my camera stopped working has loads of faces in.. very scary&#8230; check them out and please feel free to email with question..<br />
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