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		<title>By: Kevin Bailey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jun 2006 06:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know nothing of me, or of my convictions.  I have much more in common with Dr. King than Malcolm X in my views of resistance to racism.  I believe--as Dr. King did--in CIVIL discourse.  If you continue on the current line you are taking, that can be had.  If you choose to descend back into what you referred to as the &quot;world of smut&quot; I choose not to follow you there.  Were I more confrontational--like the esteemed Malcolm X--I might follow, but I am not.  Dr. King&#039;s views on non-violent resistance apply well here.  The &quot;violence&quot; you display is with your vulgar use of the language, as well as your racial slurs toward hispanics.  I choose &quot;non-violence&quot; in this forum, and if you choose to descend back into your &quot;violent&quot; rhetoric, you will have lost a partner in your discourse--which is my &quot;non-violent&quot; way of resisting, you might say.  I have yet to hear you explain your racist comments from the previous posts.  This would be very interesting, if you feel you can do it while keeping yourself from the gutter of vulgarity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know nothing of me, or of my convictions.  I have much more in common with Dr. King than Malcolm X in my views of resistance to racism.  I believe&#8211;as Dr. King did&#8211;in CIVIL discourse.  If you continue on the current line you are taking, that can be had.  If you choose to descend back into what you referred to as the &#8220;world of smut&#8221; I choose not to follow you there.  Were I more confrontational&#8211;like the esteemed Malcolm X&#8211;I might follow, but I am not.  Dr. King&#8217;s views on non-violent resistance apply well here.  The &#8220;violence&#8221; you display is with your vulgar use of the language, as well as your racial slurs toward hispanics.  I choose &#8220;non-violence&#8221; in this forum, and if you choose to descend back into your &#8220;violent&#8221; rhetoric, you will have lost a partner in your discourse&#8211;which is my &#8220;non-violent&#8221; way of resisting, you might say.  I have yet to hear you explain your racist comments from the previous posts.  This would be very interesting, if you feel you can do it while keeping yourself from the gutter of vulgarity.</p>
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		<title>By: TODD</title>
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		<dc:creator>TODD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jun 2006 04:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin -
How are you so sure you would not have changed my mind or some other reader&#039;s mind, even if I&#039;m not manly enough to ever admit it on here that you did?  You&#039;re not my only sounding board, others are watching my commentary, some passersby may wonder what the hell this flighty banter is all about in a forum devoted to Mora/Manfredo.  But, hate manifests itself in every facet of social life, we dress it up nice and pretty and call it Dialogue. 

Getting back to my original point, which you missed, what I meant is: Language is pure ideology.  You are the chief executive officer of the smut that flows through American veins (I&#039;m American, ironically) &quot;Democratic values,&quot; they call it. But I can see clearly that you don&#039;t understand democracy at all, which is why you&#039;re so amenable to allowing me the space to &quot;spew venom&quot; while highhandedly withdrawing yourself. You sanction this maneuver in the name of tolerance. The philosopher John Stuart Mill believed similarly that, by permitting the most obscene voices to be aired, only then can we understand the dark extremities of human thought. But Mill would rebuke you for your caddy withdrawal here.

If you were an advisor of Martin Luther King or Malcolm X, you probably would have simply told them to pack it up and go home. You&#039;d tell them to ignore the injustices against blacks, because what white folks have to say is smut---a raw, vicious, distorted point of view, but nevertheless &quot;their&quot; point of view.  Who cares, you&#039;d say, that whites degrade blacks by using the &quot;N&quot; word, it&#039;s their &quot;right,&quot; and it&#039;s our right to ignore them. &quot;Just go home Dr. King, love your wife and kids,&quot; and leave the world for the ignorant to propigate hate. Why confront them, people will not listen, they will not change.  Man, you&#039;re a real ass.  I am more convinced now than ever that you&#039;re a product of the American educational system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin -<br />
How are you so sure you would not have changed my mind or some other reader&#8217;s mind, even if I&#8217;m not manly enough to ever admit it on here that you did?  You&#8217;re not my only sounding board, others are watching my commentary, some passersby may wonder what the hell this flighty banter is all about in a forum devoted to Mora/Manfredo.  But, hate manifests itself in every facet of social life, we dress it up nice and pretty and call it Dialogue. </p>
<p>Getting back to my original point, which you missed, what I meant is: Language is pure ideology.  You are the chief executive officer of the smut that flows through American veins (I&#8217;m American, ironically) &#8220;Democratic values,&#8221; they call it. But I can see clearly that you don&#8217;t understand democracy at all, which is why you&#8217;re so amenable to allowing me the space to &#8220;spew venom&#8221; while highhandedly withdrawing yourself. You sanction this maneuver in the name of tolerance. The philosopher John Stuart Mill believed similarly that, by permitting the most obscene voices to be aired, only then can we understand the dark extremities of human thought. But Mill would rebuke you for your caddy withdrawal here.</p>
<p>If you were an advisor of Martin Luther King or Malcolm X, you probably would have simply told them to pack it up and go home. You&#8217;d tell them to ignore the injustices against blacks, because what white folks have to say is smut&#8212;a raw, vicious, distorted point of view, but nevertheless &#8220;their&#8221; point of view.  Who cares, you&#8217;d say, that whites degrade blacks by using the &#8220;N&#8221; word, it&#8217;s their &#8220;right,&#8221; and it&#8217;s our right to ignore them. &#8220;Just go home Dr. King, love your wife and kids,&#8221; and leave the world for the ignorant to propigate hate. Why confront them, people will not listen, they will not change.  Man, you&#8217;re a real ass.  I am more convinced now than ever that you&#8217;re a product of the American educational system.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Bailey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jun 2006 02:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Todd-

I choose to walk away not from my beliefs--which are held very passionately--but from one who refuses to engage in anything resembling reasonable discussion.  You willingly choose the low road of &quot;smut.&quot;  That&#039;s fine.  I refuse to descend there with you.  This in no way reflects on the depth of my views regarding the subject of your racism.  It simply reflects the fact that I sense your views to be such that you will not change them no matter what is said in this forum, and you simply want to sully us all by spewing your venom.  I won&#039;t be your sounding board in your endeavor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Todd-</p>
<p>I choose to walk away not from my beliefs&#8211;which are held very passionately&#8211;but from one who refuses to engage in anything resembling reasonable discussion.  You willingly choose the low road of &#8220;smut.&#8221;  That&#8217;s fine.  I refuse to descend there with you.  This in no way reflects on the depth of my views regarding the subject of your racism.  It simply reflects the fact that I sense your views to be such that you will not change them no matter what is said in this forum, and you simply want to sully us all by spewing your venom.  I won&#8217;t be your sounding board in your endeavor.</p>
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		<title>By: TODD</title>
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		<dc:creator>TODD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jun 2006 21:33:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, your touchy-feely-politically- correct drivel makes me want to vomit, in the same way I feel like vomiting when I see a wet wad of dog pooh on the bottom of my shoe. 

I have one question for you, and I&#039;d appreciate it if you&#039;d think long and hard about what I&#039;m going to tell you as you ride off in all your  Do you have an original idea of your own?  You choose to follow the herd by ensuring me that, while you strongly disagree with my ideas - particularly those on race - that I have some inherent (?) right to say them and you have the &quot;right&quot; to ignore me. Hmm. Kevin, the last I checked, black folks in the 60&#039;s wouldn&#039;t have idly accepted that line of reasoning; in fact, some would have spit in your face had you said the same. I sense you&#039;re not very passionate in your beliefs, especially your view on racism.  And to think you&#039;re actually walking away from this exchange believing you&#039;ve taken the higher moral ground, and with such dignant resolve and finality.  You&#039;re a product of American education, that&#039;s obvious. How pathetic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, your touchy-feely-politically- correct drivel makes me want to vomit, in the same way I feel like vomiting when I see a wet wad of dog pooh on the bottom of my shoe. </p>
<p>I have one question for you, and I&#8217;d appreciate it if you&#8217;d think long and hard about what I&#8217;m going to tell you as you ride off in all your  Do you have an original idea of your own?  You choose to follow the herd by ensuring me that, while you strongly disagree with my ideas &#8211; particularly those on race &#8211; that I have some inherent (?) right to say them and you have the &#8220;right&#8221; to ignore me. Hmm. Kevin, the last I checked, black folks in the 60&#8217;s wouldn&#8217;t have idly accepted that line of reasoning; in fact, some would have spit in your face had you said the same. I sense you&#8217;re not very passionate in your beliefs, especially your view on racism.  And to think you&#8217;re actually walking away from this exchange believing you&#8217;ve taken the higher moral ground, and with such dignant resolve and finality.  You&#8217;re a product of American education, that&#8217;s obvious. How pathetic.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Bailey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jun 2006 02:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read constantly.  One&#039;s level of intelligence does not always correlate with their ability to have what would amount to a modicum of civility in a discussion where they disagree with another person.  Though you are obviously well-read (even moreso than myself, which is saying something), you choose to not let that intelligence seep into your dealings on this message board.  That&#039;s more than your right.  While there is certainly something &quot;obscenely pompous&quot; about intelligence for its own sake, there is nothing pompous in the least about refraining from racist innuendos, and trying to be civil in how you discuss issues where you disagree.  The road you have chosen is certainly the &quot;world of smut&quot; as you call it.  As I said, that&#039;s your right.  It&#039;s also my right to discontinue discussing issues with you, while you choose to continue to dwell in that place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read constantly.  One&#8217;s level of intelligence does not always correlate with their ability to have what would amount to a modicum of civility in a discussion where they disagree with another person.  Though you are obviously well-read (even moreso than myself, which is saying something), you choose to not let that intelligence seep into your dealings on this message board.  That&#8217;s more than your right.  While there is certainly something &#8220;obscenely pompous&#8221; about intelligence for its own sake, there is nothing pompous in the least about refraining from racist innuendos, and trying to be civil in how you discuss issues where you disagree.  The road you have chosen is certainly the &#8220;world of smut&#8221; as you call it.  As I said, that&#8217;s your right.  It&#8217;s also my right to discontinue discussing issues with you, while you choose to continue to dwell in that place.</p>
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		<title>By: TODD</title>
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		<dc:creator>TODD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2006 03:45:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, let&#039;s see, Kevin; shall we discuss Plato&#039;s Theory of Forms and Aristotle&#039;s divergence from Platonic thought; or would you prefer a talk about Neitzsche&#039;s notion of Eternal Recurrence and the difference between his Ubermansch and Will to Power?  Or, perhaps we&#039;ll shift gears for a discussion about Jane Eyre and Victorian literature and its impact on the changing perspectives of women.  Better, let&#039;s chat poetry - Frost, Shelley, Blake, Coleridge, or how&#039;s about a talk about deconstruction and Jacque Derrida&#039;s &quot;Differance&quot;?  We can also delve in the Beat Generation - I&#039;ve done some massive research on Jack Kerouac -maybe you&#039;ve even read some of my stuff if you&#039;re a reader (doubt it.) 

I can be intelligent, there&#039;s something obscenely pompous about it, so I choose to dwell in the world of smut---that includes morons like you, Kevin Bailey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, let&#8217;s see, Kevin; shall we discuss Plato&#8217;s Theory of Forms and Aristotle&#8217;s divergence from Platonic thought; or would you prefer a talk about Neitzsche&#8217;s notion of Eternal Recurrence and the difference between his Ubermansch and Will to Power?  Or, perhaps we&#8217;ll shift gears for a discussion about Jane Eyre and Victorian literature and its impact on the changing perspectives of women.  Better, let&#8217;s chat poetry &#8211; Frost, Shelley, Blake, Coleridge, or how&#8217;s about a talk about deconstruction and Jacque Derrida&#8217;s &#8220;Differance&#8221;?  We can also delve in the Beat Generation &#8211; I&#8217;ve done some massive research on Jack Kerouac -maybe you&#8217;ve even read some of my stuff if you&#8217;re a reader (doubt it.) </p>
<p>I can be intelligent, there&#8217;s something obscenely pompous about it, so I choose to dwell in the world of smut&#8212;that includes morons like you, Kevin Bailey.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Bailey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2006 02:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keep talking, Todd.  You demonstrate clearly your complete lack of anything remotely resembling intelligence with every post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep talking, Todd.  You demonstrate clearly your complete lack of anything remotely resembling intelligence with every post.</p>
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		<title>By: todd</title>
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		<dc:creator>todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2006 00:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WcL: I want you to know that Kevin Bailey is Peter Manfredo&#039;s bitch! Kevin is a racist pig and he&#039;s queer. How do I know? He likes sticking his wee wee in Manfredo&#039;s big-assed nostril (C&#039;mon, you gotta admit Manfredo&#039;s got quite the honker, that pelican-ass-stupid-looking bitch!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WcL: I want you to know that Kevin Bailey is Peter Manfredo&#8217;s bitch! Kevin is a racist pig and he&#8217;s queer. How do I know? He likes sticking his wee wee in Manfredo&#8217;s big-assed nostril (C&#8217;mon, you gotta admit Manfredo&#8217;s got quite the honker, that pelican-ass-stupid-looking bitch!)</p>
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		<title>By: WcL</title>
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		<dc:creator>WcL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2006 09:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>F*&amp;@ that was some entertaining bit of scripture!! judges have scored the bout so far and its just about even... 77-75 75-77 and 75-75... HAhHA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>F*&amp;@ that was some entertaining bit of scripture!! judges have scored the bout so far and its just about even&#8230; 77-75 75-77 and 75-75&#8230; HAhHA</p>
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		<title>By: TODD</title>
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		<dc:creator>TODD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jun 2006 23:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin, why don&#039;t you stick your wee-wee up Manfredo&#039;s nostril, you bitch!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin, why don&#8217;t you stick your wee-wee up Manfredo&#8217;s nostril, you bitch!</p>
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