Princess Cheyenne, stripper, ALLEGEDLY practiced as unlicensed psychologist

Anyone remember Princess Cheyenne? If not you might have heard about a South Shore woman has been indicted on charges she has ALLEGEDLY practiced for years as an unlicensed psychologist, state authorities said Thursday. Louise Wightman, 46, of Hull, was indicted by a Suffolk County grand jury on several counts of filing false health care claims, insurance fraud, and larceny over $250, according to Attorney General Thomas Reilly’s office.

Wightman, who also was indicted on one count of practicing psychology without a license, has been summonsed to court for arraignment on Oct. 20.

Lucy Wightman, a former exotic dancer who used the name “Princess Cheyenne,” allegedly saw patients at South Shore Psychology Associates, a business she founded more than five years ago.

Reilly’s office alleged that Wightman has never applied for or received a license to practice as a psychologist in Massachusetts, which requires a doctoral degree in psychology from a state-recognized program.

Wightman, who has a masters degree in counseling psychology, is allowed to practice as a psychotherapist, which does not require a state license, the attorney general’s office said.

State investigators said most of her clients were school-age children and teenage girls with eating disorders.

Wightman’s phone number in Hull is non-published.

Update on the Lucy Wightman case

Lucy Wightman was stripper Princess CheyenneLucy was convicted of larceny Friday for posing as a psychologist and treating patients for seven years.

Louise Wightman, 47, of Hull was found guilty on 19 of 25 counts by a Suffolk Superior Court jury after less than two days of deliberations. Each count carries a maximum five-year prison sentence. She was scheduled to be sentenced on May 14.

Let’s all keep Lucy in our hearts as recent tragedies have brought enough sadness in her life.

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363 Responses to “Princess Cheyenne, stripper, ALLEGEDLY practiced as unlicensed psychologist”

  1. Grateful_mom 22 October 2005 at 1:01 am Permalink

    I’ve been reading this board since the beginning and feel that I need to add my two cents worth so here goes ……

    1.) Our story;

    My son is one of Lucy’s patients. She has helped him deal with a severe case of Anxiety Disorder. This occurred after he lost both his dog and his only grandparent within a few months of each other. He couldn’t even leave the house to go to school. I had to stay at home with him, because he couldn’t tolerate being left alone. He was 17 at the time, no longer a small child.

    He’s also borderline ADHD and had all of the social problems that go along with that. One of the previous “Professionals” (on paper at least) (that we went to for the ADHD) was a man with years of experience. His idea of helping was to overmedicate my son and literally “yell” at him and/or me, if my son wasn’t taking his medicine or being compliant.

    Our pediatrician recommended Lucy, who counseled him. She would come to our house and went through a long process of counseling in order to motivate him to go out with her to book stores and places like that. She’s managed to build up his self esteem as well as have him go through an anger management program, which has done wonders to help us all.

    She had a Psychiatrist make house calls, since he couldn’t leave the house. (Yes that person is licensed!)

    She even went so far as to give us two concert tickets, and suggested that, I take him to a concert at the Tweeter Center. It was quite an experience, let me tell you! We finally made it into the Center somewhere half way through the concert. (It took that long for him to leave the car!)

    He’s much better now. He was able to finish his last year of High School. He’s going to a Junior College now and has a part time job.

    Her methods may be unconventional, but that is probably due to her varied background. She’s not going by some book, but is instead using her imagination, (which is lovely by the way) in order to help people.

    2.) Why there aren’t more patients writing to this board;

    Well, there could be many reasons, along with them not being computer/Internet users!

    Another thing is that seeing a therapist, is best left as a private situation and not something that you share with the news media. You can see just how “subtle” they have been about reporting/analyzing Lucy’s past/present.

    There are still many people who automatically think it best to stay away from you , if you’re someone who needs a therapist. An medieval outlook perhaps, but they’re out there.

    3.) Just what *are* the legal facts? Is there anyone out there who can clarify these facts for us? Someone who *knows*, not just speculation please.

    4.) My son is the one who told me about the upcoming news story about Lucy, on T.V. Since he’s prone to exaggeration, I decided to “wait and see” the story myself before commenting on it to him. I can see how this broadcast would upset people. I know that I wished that my son had never seen it. And he’s not even one of Lucy’s younger patients.

    He’s able to understand that our goals in life may change as we mature. What looked like a good idea at 20 may look pretty silly to us at 40.

    I feel that the Television station was being irresponsible by showing that film footage to the public. They were irresponsible by ignoring the damage they could do to the Families (like Claire’s) . I can’t imagine sitting in front of the set with friends and children and having that broadcast. Especially *before* the case has been tried!

    The reporters are condoned for “doing their job” no matter how they hurt people and make things look. I always thought people are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty.

    5.) When I received an email mentioning this board, I replied to the sender that “I’ve been on online, mailing lists for about five years or so. I’m aware that all kinds of characters come out of the woodwork; including the “spelling and grammar” police.

    This holds true for this board as well. I wouldn’t write to just any blog, and have my thoughts analyzed and shredded, but I feel that I should, make an exception, in this case!

    (I used MSWord and it’s spell check, so I hope that helps, at least ;-)

  2. another grateful_mom 22 October 2005 at 6:54 am Permalink

    Thank you grateful_mom for sharing your story. My daughter also suffered from “anxiety” and was referred to Lucy several years ago. Without going into detail, Lucy helped my child tremendously. My daughter now functions very “normally” as a teenage girl…(Mom’s of teenage girls, you know what I mean!) I’m not saying it’s easy, but at least the “anxiety” has been pretty much eliminated. I commented to Lucy a few weeks ago that the three of us(my husband, Lucy and I) have done a nice job so far.

    Which brings me to my husband and I. We found ourselves in need of help several months back and we both agreed that we should see Lucy as a couple (based on our/her past success with our child).

    We knew about Lucy’s past from the stories earlier this year. Actually, my husband suspected years ago when we first started seeing Lucy. He and his friends used to go to shows in town in their youth (oh horrors, he must be a pervert!) No, he’s not, and no Lucy is not either. I know that if he asked Lucy about her past years ago, she would have been truthful; however, “her past” had absolutely nothing to do with “our present and future”, and it was as irrelevant then…as it is now. My point is that Lucy was not keeping a secret (we just didn’t ask). None of us should have to be ashamed of or have any reason to apologize for previous (or current) career choices. We have no right to judge others.

    Once again, Lucy has been very effective in helping us with our concerns. No, she is not paying me to support her. To the contrary, we pay her and it’s money well spent. I tend to doubt that any individual that was allegedly “forced to use Lucy by the courts” paid a single penny out of their own pocket for their sessions. In any event, I will continue to “invest my money well” and continue to seek Lucy’s expert guidance and advice.

  3. herbert enos 22 October 2005 at 1:24 pm Permalink

    My main concern is for Lucy’s young and impressionable patients.
    My daughter considered Lucy to be a reliable friend. When she had problems, she would say to me, “I need to talk to Lucy,” and she would email her or make an appointment to see her.
    She hasn’t mentioned Lucy’s name once since she found out about her past and she has become cynical about all therapists.
    By not being forthright, Lucy has done children like my daughter a disservice that may prevent them from seeking psycological help in the future.

  4. Rx 22 October 2005 at 10:37 am Permalink

    To Phd:
    Don’t like the message, attack spelling?

    The topics of this dialogue are related to Ethics, Standards and Professional Practice(Course Ps 800 at MSPP), which addresses these topics … in this country.

    What a shame any teen has to be subjected to TV footage of his therapist’s past, but again, where to place the responsibility?
    Easier to blame the media or board.. why not blame the school for a requirement to complete requirements for graduation.. as being “uptight”.

    The public has a right to expect we honestly represent ourselves in regard to credentialing and status for reimbursement.
    That is rather basic, and this unfortunate story has brought angst to way too many to be defended.

  5. legal haven 22 October 2005 at 12:06 pm Permalink

    Grateful Mom – the *legal* issues are complicated by many factors. I can only speak generally, and with some redundancy as Greenarrow has outlined most clearly what is likely the factual and legal motivation/story. The law on the books (112 S 122) amended in 1996 (c. 270 s1) says that any person not licensed to practice psychology who does so will be punished by fine of no more that $500. This law, like many, was not enforceable until March 29, 2005. We all know there are hundreds, thousands of laws that are not enforced due to there being no one to do so. Once the Board was given power to do so (December 2004, enacted March 29, 2005) this unknown law became known, at L Wightman’s expense, so in effect, she is the “poster child” of a new law. We all know not to park on a double yellow line, to the degree that if we do, and we forget, or do not see the yellow line, or do not look down, we are still charged. This is called “strict offense liability” and these do not require there be intent. Insurance fraud, larceny, and use of term ALL REQUIRE INTENT.

    amen

  6. PhD 22 October 2005 at 9:37 pm Permalink

    It is all in how the parent models for the child and how the parent speaks to the child about events. How would you imagine a child could possibly manage the conflict, the media image and the feelings of the parents? This is too much to expect. By not being forthright…? should the therapist then disclose his or her entire past? would this be forthright? no – of course not – it would be a serious boundary crossing! What has now made her an unreliable friend? And how does a child become cynical other than imitating learned behaviors or by using this as a defense against intolerable conflict. If there is a disservice done, it is the opportunity missed by any parent to do anything other than allow for some reasonable process to occur. Idealizing and demonizing is an oversimplified way to live. Teaching a process of inquiry, logic, fact-finding and possibility is.

  7. semantics 22 October 2005 at 9:39 pm Permalink

    legal haven – this clarifies a lot

  8. Grateful_mom 23 October 2005 at 1:32 am Permalink

    Legal haven,

    Thank you for your reply!

    So it’s like I thought, another case of people jumping to conclusions, without knowing the facts. That’s why my motto has been/always will be, to wait and see before making a judgment.

    I still think that the whole problem here is the way that the media goes about reporting things “as they see them”.

    Mom

  9. Grateful_mom 23 October 2005 at 1:41 am Permalink

    Herbert Enos,

    I agree with you in that it’s difficult to explain things to our children. Who can/can’t they trust in this society of ours. Which values are good, and which aren’t.

    I don’t think that the fault lies with Lucy though, I think the fault lies with the news media. Did they think about what kind of affect their story would have on this Doctors’ clients? No!

    I think that Lucy has a right to privacy just like anyone else.

    Grateful

  10. H.Enos 23 October 2005 at 11:03 am Permalink

    If I had a well-adjusted, happy, confidant child, I wouldn’t have had to seek the services of a therapist. My daughter was angry and unhappy and distrustful of the world around her. She certainly is not one to sit down with her parents and have a chat about anything. When the news about Lucy’s past came out all attempts at discussion led to a door being slammed in my face.
    I thought Lucy helped my daughter. My daughter seemed to enjoy her appointments. She gradually stopped seeing Lucy as she became busy with school activities and college applications.
    Now my daughter (who is in college and growing out of her anger) says that Lucy never helped her, that she never confided in Lucy. She recently saw a newspaper photo of Lucy as Princess Cheyenne and ridiculed her and refused to discuss her. They had been friendly and I found this sad.
    Obviously my daughter (like many of you) is confused by Lucy’s past.
    There are legal issues and there are personal issues.
    There are (on the personal level) sins of omission and sins of commision. Lucy’s whole personality, style and way of talking and running her paractice was one that implied she was offbeat yet thoroughly honest about herself.
    I agree that her case probably wouldn’t be ‘newsworthy’ if she hadn’t been a stripper. I can also agree that the stripper part of her life was in her past and should ideally remain in the past.
    But she is an intelligent woman. People with a colorful past are found out. She was a ‘local’ and most of her patients probably know someone who saw her perform.
    I suspect most parents were shocked to find out about her past and would not have chosen her to treat their children had they known about it.
    They, like my daughter, feel (at the least) confused and (at the most) angry & betrayed.
    Life isnt’ fair, and sometimes choices we have made in the past preclude us from paths which we would like to take in our later years-like the teenage drinking incident which I believe can keep one out of the FBI.
    In short, given the world we live in, Lucy’s past was bound to come out and to deeply disturb some of her clients. If she couldn’t anticipate this and find some way to prepare her clients for this, she shouldn’t have had a therapy practice. This is my personal opinion and obviously has nothing to do with the indictments against her
    As for the legality of her practice-this blog raises all sorts of issues and is becomming (to my mind) very petty.
    All I know is that she called herself Dr. Wightman so I assumed she was a psychologist (and she may very well be one). There was never any question about whether or not she was licenced. I never asked. I paid up front and she filled out insurance reimbursement forms which had her tax ID number on them and on which she circled the word “psychologist.”
    The AG office called me to ask if I would make a statement and I declined, saying that I had mixed feelings and that I wanted to protect the confidentiality of my daughter. They were very polite and respectful and I saw no reason to be alarmed by their call. I assumed they got my name from the insurance company.
    I personally like Lucy a lot. But my fierce devotion to my daughter leads me to wish I had never used her as a therapist. I am not claiming that this is rational or fair.

  11. on her behalf 23 October 2005 at 3:14 pm Permalink

    I have worked as an admin person in service oriented offices before – medical as well – and have never EVER seen a place to “circle” the word psychologist

  12. on her behalf 23 October 2005 at 3:17 pm Permalink

    AND I fielded phone calls for Lucy to and fromn insurance companies and ALWAYS replied that she was NOT licensed -

  13. on her behalf 23 October 2005 at 3:23 pm Permalink

    “Enos” I appreciate the honesty for what is underneath some of the reaction – the past. And maybe Lucy “should” have thought of this but honestly after ten years why would she think this would come up – to be fair. I like also that you are wearing it on your sleeve and qualify this as not really rational or fair. And I cannot emphasize enough that in my experience, Lucy was exactly as you describe – friendly, offbeat, intelligent, also caring and deeply authentic about her work – she was honest, very, and when confronted by her past dealt with it honestly.

  14. on her behalf 23 October 2005 at 3:24 pm Permalink

    one more thing ENOS – what a noble thing to protect your daughter’s confidentiality!

  15. claire 23 October 2005 at 4:01 pm Permalink

    There is a difference between claiming to be licensed and signing off as a psychologist. I do not believe that H. Enos believed her to be licensed.
    Many of us have chosen to remain “uninvolved” in order to protect our own privacy as well as the privacy of our children and family.
    Enos has some excellent and well thought out points. Thank you.

  16. PhD 23 October 2005 at 9:46 pm Permalink

    saying that because someone danced well in the 70s and 80s precludes them from any kind of life at all is hysteria – so, if someone drank too much and had a wild time of things but did not harm anyone or commit any crime does that erase their possibilities??

  17. H.Enos 24 October 2005 at 10:39 am Permalink

    a reply-
    1- On my insurance forms there are spaces for provider’s name, address and discipline.
    Lucy used a stamped ID which gave her name as ‘Lucy Wightman, PhD’.
    The discipline choices were1) MD/DO- 2)Psychologist-
    3)SW/MH Counselor- and 4)RNCS/RN Other-.
    She circled Psychologist (although technically there were spaces provided to check off one’s discipline).

    2- I never thought about whether or not she was licenced. I didn’t know one could practice without a license.
    The subject never entered my mind as one to ask about.
    Even now I don’t know the significance of licensure in psychology. But I am sure I would have asked her why she wasn’t licensed if the subject had come up. Perhaps I would have accepted her explanation. If this had come up I would have checked her credentials. I feel stupid and irresponsible that I accepted a recommendation to Lucy from a dietitian and never actually questioned her about her qualifications, degrees etc.

    3- In reply to comment #215, I have a friend in the CIA. Along with his background check he had to take a lie detector test to see if he ever was drunk (at any age).
    Apparantly the CIA felt that someone who ‘had a wild time’ was indeed precluded from working for them.
    I mention this simply because it is one instance that comes to mind when I ask myself the question, “Should Lucy’s past be such an issue for me?”
    and I hope there will be no snide comments comparing state secrets to therapy.

    I have been QUESTIONING MYSELF- not judging Lucy- ever since reading about her in the newspapers.
    I question my fairness, my moral values, my belief in the value of education and personal growth, my (presumed) liberal values, my ability to intelligently assess people…everything….

    I have commented on this blog because I hoped talking with other clieints of Lucy’s would help me sort things out.

    However I now realize that a blog is no help to me.
    I feel criticized (perhaps even when I haven’t been).
    For example, comment #213-are you being sarcastic?
    (Sorry if it was meant kindly.)

    and comment #215- am I an hysteric?

    I think I give up

  18. a mom 24 October 2005 at 1:06 pm Permalink

    Enos, I am finding a clear pattern here of concerned parents. Perhaps because as a parent, we are so fiercely protective of our children, that when things go awry we immediately blame ourselves and question our actions. I believe that our concerns are indeed valid. Our daughter was seeing Lucy (referred by a pediatrician) for a sexual abuse issue. We were of course unnerved when we discovered Lucy’s past (on Fox25). It is our feelings that if Lucy had explained things before the program aired, we could have looked at it in an objective manner. Would we have continued to see Lucy if we had known her past up front? I am not sure…
    As for her being licensed, Lucy in fact told us that she was not licensed and used privacy issues as an excuse. Obviously there are no privacy issues if the AG’s office is calling up people and asking them to testify. We never looked into her credentials (shame on us and a lesson learned) but if we had, she most likely would have showed us her Concordia University degree (I assume) and who were we to know any different? We did file for insurance reimbursement and the forms were signed by a psychologist. We did not question that.
    Fortunately for us, this entire fiasco came at a time when we were winding down therapy and not in the middle of our crisis time. We were able to make a break and move on, on our own.
    Did Lucy help us? I want to say yes, but have no comparisons. It has damaged relationships within our family as they now can discredit the therapy work we did because as far as they are concerned, Lucy is a fake. Truth or not, it has had a great affect on us.
    Enos, I hope that you will find peace with your feelings and be able to trust your instincts.

  19. H.Enos 24 October 2005 at 3:41 pm Permalink

    Thank you for those comments.

    This has not had a ‘great’ effect on my family.
    But as I mentioned earlier, I wonder if my daughter will seek out/respect a therapist in the future (if one is needed) because these revelations came when she was so young, inexperienced and judgemental.

  20. gotta clue 24 October 2005 at 10:44 pm Permalink

    To ruth #74- about lucy “withdrawing” from MSPP during year 5. Didnt u mean kicked out?

  21. ruth 24 October 2005 at 11:11 pm Permalink

    gotta clue
    to #219
    what was she kicked out for?

  22. on her behalf 24 October 2005 at 11:13 pm Permalink

    #213 was meant sincerely

  23. roots 24 October 2005 at 11:22 pm Permalink

    I am curious, having had nothing at all to do with any of this, but researching the impact of disconnection, communication, values, media and community. It seems there is a gap between those who still maintain relationships with this woman and those who do not. How do you make sense of this? I am not willing to accept it is power of manipulation or being “a fake” as a true “fake” (ha ha) would not be allowed to work, would have run away to go hide under some rock, and would not choose to fight. I am also struck by what is believed to be fact all along when no one has really stepped back to come up with, say, a collective groups of facts that can be filtered for hearsay or media information. In other words, collectively, what is really known, for real now, and that “semantics” person maybe could help pick up on filtering because we have to understand how our lives are so easily shaped by compliance with the larger group, the media being that voice, and then the easier, sewn up explanation.

    ideas?

  24. claire 25 October 2005 at 7:12 pm Permalink

    Sounds remarkably like a LW statement.
    How can we filter through things? Perhaps this is impossible to do until the trial when Lucy and her attorney are able to speak. Any other ideas? It seems that some of us have indeed disconnected in order to move on.

  25. roots 26 October 2005 at 12:55 am Permalink

    a show stopper?
    so often when we are called to
    gather factual data we are stopped in our
    movements and can’t find the banister amidst
    all of the feeling and opinion/.

  26. J.J. 26 October 2005 at 1:27 am Permalink

    I’m not involved in this at all–not that any of you will believe me.

    One thing I know for sure is that there are people claiming that LW helped them and people claiming that she didn’t.

    And for the people who claim that she somehow caused them (or someone they know) misfortune, I think their claims will be proven or disproven based on two things. First, show me the money. Anyone who follows up with a civil claim is full of kaka. Second, let’s see who goes back to court to have their “court-appointed” GAL report discredited. If the majority of the 26 victims that Tom Reilly rounded up are satisfied that LW had the book thrown at her and seek no handouts, then their motives were pure and nobody should question them. On the other hand, anyone following up the criminal proceedings with civil ones of their own is the lowest form of freeloading pond-scum and deserves an life-long battle with head lice, IMO. And those who seek to have their failed custody grabs overturned can spend anoter few grand going through the same process and probably losing again, so at least they have that going for them.

  27. claire 26 October 2005 at 8:15 am Permalink

    J.J.
    Pond scum is a bit severe, yes? What about the people who (and if) have the court decide in their favor. That LW had done a dis-service to them. Isn’t it OK for them to ask for their money back? The money that they paid her?

  28. claire 26 October 2005 at 8:16 am Permalink

    Oh, and ask LW how many court battles she has received money from…..

  29. J.J. 26 October 2005 at 9:27 am Permalink

    Claire,

    Fair enough. Money back–sure. Reimbursement for their co-pays and future MH visits no longer covered by insurance, if she used up all of their units–sure.

    But a money grab is bad karma and calls into question ones motives, IMO.

    And nobody is happy when a GAL finds against them in custody situations. The process is inherently antagonistic, which is why a GAL is appointed in the first place.

    If people have an beef with the woman, let them participate in the criminal process and do what they can to ensure that justice is served. Using the criminal court and AG’s office to fund a family room and Aruba trip would remove all legitimacy from their claims, however, IMO.

  30. Ken 26 October 2005 at 9:36 am Permalink

    ok Claire, what court battles have Lucy received money from?

    You can’t bring up something without backing it up too.

  31. a mom 26 October 2005 at 10:49 am Permalink

    I have a few things to add:
    1) on several occasions during our issues with our daughter, Lucy encouraged us to go to the press to expose the offender. We did not because we knew that we would be exposed as well as our daughter. It was also not necessary.
    2) we were also encouraged (by lucy)to sue the family of our daughter’s perp. as lucy said, that is what insurance if for. again, we did not.
    I wonder now that the media is on her (fairly or not), would she do the same thing?

  32. claire 26 October 2005 at 12:37 pm Permalink

    What is a GAL or IMO?
    I am not familiar with these terms.
    JJ, I agree with not going after money for purposes other than reimbursement, however enticing it may be…

  33. J.J. 26 October 2005 at 7:39 pm Permalink

    Claire,

    Sorry. “IMO” is geek for “in my opinion”. “GAL” is a standard legal abbreviation for “guardian ad litem”.

    It was written above that LW functioned at least once in the GAL role. Courts appoint this GAL (anyone can serve, but they’re generally some professional mental health worker) as a proxy for the judge. This person interviews and observes individuals on each side of a court case and makes a written assessment (usually with recommendations) that carries more weight with the court than the antagonists’ direct testimony.

    And contrary to what was implied above, the parties in question must approve the individual appointed. And the report is only another piece of evidence for the judge to consider.

  34. semantics 26 October 2005 at 11:16 pm Permalink

    encouraged
    suggested
    recommended
    thought
    said

    I can’t understand your wondering there “a mom”

    Suggesting options to re-empower you and your family seems reasonable and the action of omission here is – WHAT ELSE WAS SUGGESTED? I gather there were also many recommendations that were acted on and that worked. Good for you.

    What does the media’s assault on LW have to do with your bold and brave revelations? For her to expose the media to the media?
    Or to sue the Commonwealth or Fox25? I don’t understand.

  35. hedgetrimmer 26 October 2005 at 11:24 pm Permalink

    JJ
    Your thinking perked my ears up – I had never thought of this, the motives. Right. Remember that this all seems to hinge on knowing factually about what is the truth. In other words, did this person Go to school, get training, supervision all that ethical good stuff. If not, and the person bought the service based on education and experience, then isn’t it sort of complicated? Unless she had nothing – zip, nada. So like I pay a hedgetrimmer who says he or she knows about hedges and went to Hedging School in Great Britain, they trim my hedges which turn out just fine, but then I find out that INDEED NOooooo, there was no school. The folks still performed a service.

    An aside. These will not be individual cases won or lost BTW – this is the Commonwealth winning its case or not. The individuals are only witnesses and may never know if “their” case was or was not. Am I correct here?

  36. et al Ken 26 October 2005 at 11:29 pm Permalink

    yes, back up the statement. how could a clinician win money in court??? I am really confused.

    I appreciate some of what i have learned through J.J, and at least these are facts.
    thank you and I will stick with pond scum given what one might imagine L has gone through

  37. FOXhound 26 October 2005 at 11:31 pm Permalink

    What is your opinion:
    what did Mike Beadet and the blond news person send into Concordia to get the degrees besides a check.

    I have some ideas…

  38. a mom 27 October 2005 at 8:03 am Permalink

    Semantics, I do not think that I was having any “revelations,” just making some comments. Since many here seem to blame the media, I am simply making a statement that Lucy encouraged us to go to the media in the past.

  39. semantics 31 October 2005 at 11:27 pm Permalink

    So who is blamed when we don’t listen the first time a child whispers?

  40. lucy wightman 2 November 2005 at 11:26 pm Permalink

    http://lucywightman.squarespace.com/welcome/

  41. lucy wightman 2 November 2005 at 11:27 pm Permalink

    thank you Ken
    Maybe now is the time
    I learn to understand
    blogs, websites, RSS and
    the like.

  42. Ken 3 November 2005 at 12:43 am Permalink

    Your welcome. But all you had to do was ask and I would have helped you setup a whole website.
    Im glad to help someone who wants to learn.

  43. lucy wightman 3 November 2005 at 9:40 am Permalink

    I might still ask. You are a pretty great guy (pass along to your wife when needed)

  44. erin 3 November 2005 at 1:14 pm Permalink

    I know he’s a great guy, thank you Lucy for the nice comments.

  45. B.Z. 3 November 2005 at 8:13 pm Permalink

    Lucy,

    If you need any help with HTML or website stuff, let me know!

  46. Aerosmith 16 November 2005 at 10:53 pm Permalink

    Hi

  47. http://lucywightman.squarespace.com/ 16 November 2005 at 11:00 pm Permalink

    http://lucywightman.squarespace.com/

  48. J.J. 3 December 2005 at 11:36 am Permalink

    Bloggertruth,

    If it’s not about the money, then these cats won’t all sue the woman. My guess is that they do, and if so, they show what their true motives are. If not, then she has to deal with whatever the court says.

    We’ll find out.

  49. Chris 5 December 2005 at 9:21 am Permalink

    You’re right BloggerRuth, this dialogue is no longer productive, so one wonders why you would comment at this point when there wasn’t an entry in weeks! I guess that’s what the blog world is all about. I also wonder why I’m responding, but I have to comment on your remark…”mad at the world”. Lucy, you have to be kidding me. You are so far off, it just made me laugh.

  50. Ken Savage 20 December 2005 at 11:09 pm Permalink

    So has anyone heard of Lucy’s next court appearance?

    I read on some other news blog that the state was considering dropping the charges?

    Is this true??

  51. Ken Savage 5 January 2006 at 5:15 pm Permalink

    Anyone have any new news about Lucy and her court battle. It’s hard to follow this when it’s not in the news.

  52. ken 22 January 2006 at 11:03 am Permalink

    I have just read the article in today’s Globe on Lucy Wightman and I feel I have to say a few things. What someone did in their past should stay in the past for that is something you can not change. What a person is doing with their life today is what counts. Lucy has been helping people with their problems and making a positive impact on their lives. I feel she should be allowed to continue to do what she has been doing and that is helping people not hurting them. She has a gift. Let her use it for good and help the people that seek her out. I support her and hope that she wins her court battle and is allowed to continue doing good for people. I would definatly do anything to help her in her fight which I know will be a long and hard battle. Keep up the good work Lucy and know always there are people who do support you. Remember always the past is dead dont dwell on it live for today to build for a better tommorrow.

  53. Lucy W 22 January 2006 at 12:23 pm Permalink

    Dear Ken

    thank you for helping me with your strong and kind words

    Lucy W

  54. Nurse 22 January 2006 at 12:43 pm Permalink

    Lucy:

    I knew you many years ago when you bought bicycles from the store at which I worked. I could tell then that you were a charismatic and caring individual. I have no doubt that you have put your natural talents as a listener, your interpersonal skills, and your life experience and wisdom to good use as a therapist. Should I feel the need for counseling, I hope you would be able to find time in your schedule for me.

    It has been argued that professional licensure, while theoretically designed to protect the public, often protects the revenues of the practioner (by creating a monopoly). I doubt that most patients (prior to your story) would have understood the distinction between psychologist and psychotherapist. Furthermore, the doctoral degree (from any institution) does not ensure quality counseling; nor does it ensure quality teaching or research at at university (I have had many good professors and (sadly) almost as many professors that should consider other professions for the sake of their unfortunate students.)

    I wish you the very best, and I hope that you can find a way to alleviate the “suffering” of those who feel they have been wronged by you. Those feelings are legitimate, but they (and the patients) have been exploited by the media and office seekers.

    Please find a way to continue to practice.

  55. Chazzz 22 January 2006 at 3:05 pm Permalink

    Dear Lucy -

    I read the article in the Globe today and the blog entries. OK, so ‘you done wrong’ as they say. In psychology it’s 3/4 experience and personal characteristics and 1/4 training that makes one effective. And from what I read, I’d rather have your experience and understanding than I would that of many of my PhD puke-colleagues.

    It’s not like you don’t have psychology training, both a BA and an MA from accredited institutions and supervised training …at least as far as I can gather. Truthfully, the difference between a PhD and an MA for your purposes is small. Likening it to a fake doctor practicing medicine is pure hyperbole.

    Yes, you should have more fully represented your background and credentials. It might have even made you MORE successful. And patients do deserve truth in advertising.

    I hope the State of MA goes easy on you and that you are allowed to continue to practice in a context that is legal. And if it’s a PhD that you need/want, maybe this will give you more incentive to complete formality. I’m sure you would dignify any school you attend.

    Go keep doing good work Lucy! The secret is out …so you’re free.

    Chaz

  56. Chris 22 January 2006 at 3:50 pm Permalink

    Dear Dr. Wightman,

    I’m curious what you think about the photos in your article because they scared me a bit. Although it was very nice, I don’t think the current photo captured your personality. I’ve never seen you without a smile on your face. The old photo scares the shit out of me (wow!). Oh yeah, I’d like to recant my challenge to an arm wrestle!

  57. Susan Ovans 22 January 2006 at 11:23 pm Permalink

    Hi Lucy, and others. I hadn’t checked in on this site since soon after I filed my own stories [in October], then saw today’s article in the Globe. So I went on Google and found a posting in Science Daily that says that you pleaded guilty to 39 counts of fraud and impersonating a psychologist. The article was dated Oct. 21. See http://www.sciencedaily.com/upi/index.php?feed=Quirks&article=UPI-1-20051021-16120700-bc-us-stripper.xml.
    Did I miss something?

  58. Ken Blatt 23 January 2006 at 1:08 pm Permalink

    Lucy keep your chin up and you will continue to be a winner.the fight will never be lost and i know you will come out on top. you have done so much good for people and will continue to do the same in the future. it’s the narrow minded people who want to judge someone by their past not by what they are doing now.to hell with them believe in yourself and stand tall you will be the winner not them.i support you as many others do. wishing you much success and happiness for the future. your the best and dont ever let anyone tell you different.

  59. Shelby 23 January 2006 at 8:30 pm Permalink

    There is a reason for following the rules in our society. Sometimes they do not make much sense but still hold a purpose. The point here is not the background of Lucy Wightman (though it does make a good headline) but the fact that the woman did not follow the rules and had a practice that implied that she was a psychologist. Correct me if I am wrong, but I do not believe that her Phd was or is accepted in MA as valid, so what she did was wrong and fraudulent. Her works may be good as many attest to, but she should not have referred to herself as a doctor.

  60. greenarrow 24 January 2006 at 11:28 am Permalink

    The article was interesting and generally favorable but not very imformative. After all the time the author spent, both his and many others, he wrote a very superficial story which avoided the real civic questions. Those are the law and the law enforcers.
    While some may understand Dr. Wightman better now, does anyone understand the motives and reasoning of the Commonwealth one iota? This side of the story would have been a greater exercise in journalism.
    I might suggest that the reason Lucy’s current picture is not as appealing as it should be is the strain this inquisition has put on her and the natural skepticism she should have of the press at large. She may have had hopes that this article would air some of her viewpoint on this affair – but you can never be too sure with the media today. Objective journalism is a very rare commodity in our preseent world.
    Let us just hope that the free-fall that Tom Reilly is seeing in his campaign for Governor will encourage him to stop the needless pursecution of ordinary Mass
    citizens for his own self-agrandizement.

    Whith some luck Lucy, this may mark the beginning of the end of this ordeal.

  61. Lucy W 24 January 2006 at 4:26 pm Permalink

    Dear Nurse:

    Yes, I would make time in my schedule and would be honored to do so.

    I read your thoughts with interest – of course my feelings about licensure have been changed by recent experiences but overall I agree with you.

    And yes, perhaps the professional distinctions up until recently have been too blurry. I have always believed it is a good thing to know what you are paying for and always invite those seeking services to consider the “intake” a time to also interview me. Making a distinction between licensed and not licensed is an ethical and practical matter as it impacts financially in terms of self payment.

    Hoping I can find a way “to alleviate the “suffering” is a high hope that I do hope to someday be able to live up to. As I agree with you that the feelings are legitimate… At the same time I believe I do not have that kind of power or ability to alleviate anyone’s pain but my own.

    I find comfort in your words, and something vital. Thanks for being there along the way.

  62. Claire 24 January 2006 at 8:20 pm Permalink

    I suppose that yes, we are naive for not asking if Lucy was a psychologist as her signage, website, business cards, signature, paperwork, etc, etc indicated.

    Is it necessary to ask bus drivers if they hold a valid license before climbing aboard or is their experience enough for us to trust they are good drivers? Should we ask our physician for a copy of their license for our records before they do an exam or procedure? Of course, if they have experience…..

  63. Nurse 25 January 2006 at 5:38 pm Permalink

    Claire:
    “yes” to all of your questions. I believe that we have all read reports of child molesters driving school buses and various other reports where flaws are uncovered too late in the regulatory system. Caveat Emptor…especially in the current political administration.

    Furthermore, as I have said before, licensure does not guarantee quality. Need I remind you of reports of licensed surgeons who walk out in the middle of a procedure to make an ATM deposit, or licensed surgeons who remove the organ / limb from the wrong side?

    Life is all about taking chances, Claire (i.e. there are no guarantees in life other than the perverbial death and taxes). But I am willing to argue that you would be hard pressed to find a better therapist than Lucy. See if you can find it in your heart to forgive her for her mistakes, no matter how egregious you find them to be. I know that you are hurt and I don’t blame you. That forgiveness would be a true sign of healing.

  64. Lucy W 25 January 2006 at 11:50 pm Permalink

    Claire is not naive at all – but sounding hurt and angry yes. I was hurt and angry too but that got tiresome and stole time.

    There were no questions TO ask. For those that found some, I answered honestly, always.

    It was always important to state that I was not licensed. My 5 years of education and training beyond the Master’s degree was regretfully not completed in a way that allowed for licensure as a psychologist. I knew this when I got my doctorate. It was a huge loss to leave myself out of the mainstream, again.

    It was my choice to forego licensure for many reasons at a Master’s level – something I could have attempted while in my doctoral program – and looking back from where I am now – should have.

    There is a lot I could share here about the use of the term etc but cannot at this time.

    I was the one the was naive.

    I took for granted that while my past informed me (and still does) were someone to decide to use it against me it was all too easy.

    I am deeply sorry for all this has caused.

  65. Lucy W 25 January 2006 at 11:51 pm Permalink

    By the way, MSPP (Mass. School of Professional Psych.) was not always accredited and only recently did Haravrd’s program become so.

  66. Lucy W 25 January 2006 at 11:51 pm Permalink

    oops

    Harvard

  67. Louis 26 January 2006 at 11:07 am Permalink

    Dear Princess,
    This is clear misrepresentation.
    It is like someone seeing a drug and alcohol counselor,being told that some AA (Alocoholics Anounymous)would help,and be listening to people who are DRUNK expaining how the stay SOBER!!!
    Trust is the deal.If the story is a lie,everything else is perpetuating a lie.
    Your the person probably in need of some psychological help.
    Borderline personality is probably a good place to start.

  68. Rick Muraida 26 January 2006 at 7:40 am Permalink

    I for one believe that Lucy is probably better equipped to pursue a career as therapist than most. There are many bad/ineffective licensed therapists in practice, therefore maybe free-market forces should have more of an impact here.

    In my estimation, gaining perspective and acumen as a therapist is experiential and not as much grounded in intellectual pursuits, although technical knowledge about the human psyche is essential it is entirely over-rated

    (In the interest of disclosure, I remember seeing Princess Cheyenne at the “I” while a student at BU in the 70′s and was quite impressed.)

  69. Nurse 26 January 2006 at 11:14 am Permalink

    Louis:

    Please don’t throw stones. This is a great site for constructive, not destructive dialogue. Please try to keep that perspective. Oh, and are you a licensed Psychologist and able to diagnose “borderline personality”? If so, please provide your credentials.

  70. Rick M 26 January 2006 at 11:23 am Permalink

    Unfortunately not a very good analogy, but I understand the point. However, I would posit that all of us have experiences in our background that inform and shape who we are and that people can and do change over time. At worst, maybe I can see a sin of ommission, but at best someone who is committed and clearly helping people in need of guidance.

  71. Lucy W 26 January 2006 at 7:03 pm Permalink

    I appreciate some of the insights but I won’t be back. I know who I am, what I am and how I am. My job is to stay grounded in care, clarity and my own life. I will not get defensive or tangle with those who want to vent or be abusive. As I have said, a few good men have taught me the value of silence.

  72. Ken Savage 1 February 2006 at 1:41 pm Permalink

    Please be respectful of other people here and try not to degrade of slander any specific person. Discussion is very healthy and I’m glad we can all talk about this and get it out int he public.

  73. Ken Savage 2 March 2006 at 6:53 pm Permalink

    Anyone hear Lucy’s show on 96.9 FM WTKK?

    http://www.wtkk.com/PhotoWall.asp?id=19946

  74. Robin 4 March 2006 at 5:39 pm Permalink

    Being a licensed therapist myself, I have to support Claire’s point of view. When you put your trust and your children;’s trust in a therapist,and then it is broken, this is NOT and NEVER will be considered GOOD TREATMENT. We as therapist buy malpratcice insurance where we have to state what discipine we are. We then have to sign that all of our answers are truthful.Either she lied on this form OR she never bought malpractice insurance which is a serious serious professional liability. So, she helped some people thats great. BUT to deceive pople and use “Psychology Associates” which is a lie is not good honest professionsl practice. She wanted her degree to help people, thats the bottom line. She lied to be able to do that. Also the colleagues that I have talked to have come under much scrutiny because of her actions and left her practice.The whole practice became under serious scrutiny because of her. What about those patients who were seeing the other therapists there?? Don’t they have a right to not have their “safe” therapy place protected??

  75. Robin 4 March 2006 at 5:49 pm Permalink

    Wea as therapists are held to certain professional responsibilities…we sign many many documents stating what our level of professional education is. She had to lie over and over and over again. This goes directly against our professionsl code of ethics. So those that want to defend her have their opinion, but as another therapist who has to work,provide good honest treatment and be professionally honest about my credentials, this is an absolute unprofessional,unethical,unexcusable pre-concieved decision she made. She does NOT have the support of the majority of therapist in the South Shore who keep a very honest professional practice .

  76. Adam 17 March 2006 at 10:27 am Permalink

    ** comments removed for slander and author was notified to clean it up and did not respond. **

  77. Ken Savage 17 March 2006 at 6:19 pm Permalink

    I’ll take you work for it Adam but I hope you wouldn’t come on here and just slander Lucy for fun.

  78. TruthSeeker 19 March 2006 at 9:58 am Permalink

    Adam – how do you know all of this and why have you not spoken up earlier? How are we to believe you above others? Some of us are consumers and need to know what is and what is not the truth. How to tell?

  79. *edit* 19 March 2006 at 10:44 pm Permalink

    posing as a male named Adam… fascinating and goes to show the psychopath who does not win never ever gives up its prey

    *this comment’s name has been edited. Nancy did not make this post.*

  80. Claire 20 March 2006 at 10:14 am Permalink

    I am confused…who is posing as a male named Adam? Nancy?

    “Adam’s” story does sound solid and I suppose it would be easy enough to follow up with the names if you were so inclined.

    Ken, you seemed to be so gung-ho to believe Lucy Wightman. Why is this so and if Adam’s story proves to be the truth, how do you feel about that?

  81. simple 22 March 2006 at 12:33 am Permalink

    a lot of slander going on around here – I am sure MSPP, Schwartz, even the Dept of Corrections is slandered – yikes! the Patriot Ledger got that in print – then to go on with assaultive language towards seasoned media takes chutzpah. when the named individuals see the slander against them “Adam” could very well be in a bit of hot water. By the way “Adam” your identity is not protected – do you know what an IP address is?

  82. Ken Savage 22 March 2006 at 1:29 am Permalink

    I’m not sure what is really true. I just hated how the press jumped to conclusions quickly about this case and I blogged about it. The comments took on a life of their own.

  83. Chris 23 March 2006 at 11:26 am Permalink

    Everyone is entitled to their “opinion”, and individuals have presented various views on this blog over the past months.
    That being said, this is not the appropriate media (nor is there any such place) to post totally slanderous comments. LW, I hope that you will not be responding to Adam’s allegations. You do not need to defend yourself against Adam or the world. It’s my “opinion” that you should be primarily concerned with your family, friends, and patients, and they already know the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth! Although I am not walking in your shoes right now, and I’m sure it’s tempting to want to set the record straight. Just remember what the wise folks suggested about the power of silence.

  84. Ken Savage 23 March 2006 at 2:29 pm Permalink

    It’s interesting how some people keep changing their email or name on here and portray themselves as someone whom they might not be.

  85. Adam 23 March 2006 at 6:23 pm Permalink

    While watching this debacle unfold – what prompts my posting is rooted in our loss of integrity. It’s a powerful word.

    If we were to pose as:

    Doctor (MD) without credentials – you’re put in jail, fined and will never practice again
    Lawyer – without a Juris Doctorate – is a lawsuit, fines and other financial implications
    Police Officer – you’re arrested – it’s a felony
    Teacher – posing without credentials is fired
    Child Care – without proper accreditation is closed, shutdown and fined
    Misrepresenting credentials – i.e., Bachelors – Masters or other degree
    – is cause for dismissal and professionally your name is good for nothing

    The intent of these laws are to subscribe to a higher level of trust, skill and reverence for the particular profession.

    First and foremost we must trust our doctor, lawyer, police, teachers and other professionals to be the experts they present themselves to be – that they have gleaned a level of knowledge that is unique to their profession.

    Are we so callous as to turn our heads away when someone poses as a child psychologist and guardian ad litem? Why – because someone made you feel better or sympathized – it’s OK to break an even greater trust?

    Perhaps integrity does no longer have value.

    Gotta go – gonna try to stay away now.

  86. Claire 23 March 2006 at 7:20 pm Permalink

    Why would someone pose as Nancy Dizio and post a comment like that? I was told that it was Nancy who turned Lucy into Fox 25. Is someone accusing Nancy of being Adam?
    What constitutes Adam’s story as “slander?” If it is true, is it still slanderous?

  87. church mouse 23 April 2006 at 1:29 am Permalink

    I can’t keep this information to myself at this point. An article..Job stress takes a heavy toll on officers
    By Jesse J. Smith , Freeman staff
    ©Daily Freeman 2006

    the individual interviewed for this is mentioned in “Adam’s” posting … read on

    Few jobs are as stressful as police work, and the toll it can take is reflected in higher-than-average rates of suicide, substance abuse, divorce and stress-related health problems among law enforcement professionals.

    “People are by nature diurnal animals,” said psychologist Terrence Lynn, a former Boston housing police officer, now a professor at LaSalle College in Newton, Mass. “They were not meant to work midnights. You miss family functions, you miss parties, you end up cranky and irritable all the time.”

  88. church mouse 23 April 2006 at 1:31 am Permalink

    excerpts from website owned by Terence Lynn the “ex Boston Cop” and “psychologist”
    Terence Lynn with members of CIA, DEA, FBI, USMC(EOD), MSP, and ATF attending Bomb School
    (C4 explosion in background). KBR instructor PSYOPS Abu Ghraib, Guantanamo Bay, Kabul.

    Terence Lynn is available to consult on forensic psychological issues involving police officers, federal agents, and correctional officers worldwide. He is an expert witness on forensic psychology under Federal Rules of Evidence 702 and has consulted on criminal and civil cases involving law enforcement personnel.

    He has testified in many jurisdictions at the federal, superior, and district level. Testificadum at grand jury and deposition. Former police department prosecutor in Littleton District Court for Sugar Hill Police. Former undercover DEA task force agent. Graduate Massachusetts Criminal Justice Training Council 65-90, and 110th New Hampshire State Police Academy. Graduate Explosive Device Training School, Drug Unit Commander, DEA Narcotics, Organized Crime, Massachusetts State Police Advanced Narcotics, Boston Police Academy Community Police School. Graduate and Post-Graduate degree work completed in Boston, and Cambridge. Independent clinical licensure in Massachusetts. Over 500 narcotic investigations, and 700 psychiatric evaluations completed. Available for hire by Individuals, Prosecutors, Plaintiff Attorney, Defense Attorney, Union Officials, and Corporations. If you are an officer, attorney, or interested party and are seeking an experienced and recognized expert in the field of police psychology please contact this office. Also available in trial consulting utilizing kinesics, proxemics, and other features that may assist in providing services to client. Case Review/Trial Prep/Comprehensive Reports/Brandeis Briefs/Expert Testimony at Deposition and Trial.

    Special Training:
    Attended specialized training courses offered by the DEA, ATF, Massachusetts State Police, University of North Florida, United States Army, United States Marine Corps, New Hampshire Police Standards & Training, Massachusetts Criminal Justice Training Council.

    Professional Affiliations:
    Member Massachusetts Teachers Association/Higher Education Faculty, Member American College of Forensic Examiners, American Counseling Association, Past member International Brotherhood of Police Officers, International Narcotic Officers Association, Massachusetts Narcotic Officers Association.

    Teaching Experience:
    Adjunct professor for Assumption College, Bay State College, Bridgewater State College, Cape Cod Community College, Curry College, Framingham State College (Graduate), Lasell College, Newbury College, Quincy College, Western New England College, Worcester State College. Academic advising for students at associate degree level, thesis advisor (graduate student work researching serial killer), designed, created and teach forensic science and forensic psychology (Assumption College), Academic project advisor.

    College Courses Taught:
    Introduction to Psychology, Psychology of Criminal Behavior, Psychology of Women, General Psychology, Psychological Testing, Research Methods, Statistics, Forensic Psychology, Forensic Science, Social Psychology, Cultural Psychology, Drugs & Behavior, Adjustment Psychology, Lifespan Psychology, Abnormal Psychology, Stress Management, Police Supervision, Criminology, Constitutional Law, Criminal Law, Corrections, Interviewing and Interrogation.

    Workshops/Seminars:
    Conducted and Instructed workshops on drugs and behavior, stress management, police psychology, suicide awareness, drugs of abuse, terrorist psychology, Interrogation and Interviewing for Weymouth Public Schools, New Hampshire Police Standards and Training, Franconia Police, Justice Resource Institute, Habit Management, U.S. Government.
    Attended basic and advanced narcotics, drug unit commander school, explosive device school, organized crime, accident reconstruction, Marijuana Investigation.

    Consultant:
    Forensic consultant International Advisory Board
    Calamus International University.
    Consulted on psychological and psychometric issues for civil and criminal cases at the federal, superior, and district court level.

    Court Qualification:
    Qualified as an expert witness or as an expert involved in forensic psychology, psychology, psychometrics, and trauma. Recognized as an expert by involvement and/or performance of forensic psychological evaluations. Written and prepared psychological briefs per Daubert (1993). Testified before federal and state grand juries on narcotics and weapon cases. Testified before courts regarding M.G.L. 123 Section 9 on deviant sexual offending. Extensive experience testifying before all court jurisdictions on violations of criminal law. Department prosecutor, Littleton District Court, NH.

  89. church mouse 23 April 2006 at 1:33 am Permalink

    and i do apologize for the smokescreen here, however, this Terence Lynn is NOT someone’s radar screen I would like to be a blip on… a little scary

  90. church mouse 23 April 2006 at 1:34 am Permalink

    lastly… from the Massachusetts Board of Registration
    Licenses fitting search criteria:
    Profession equals Psychologist
    Last Name beginning with lynn
    First Name beginning with terrence

    There are no licensees fitting this criteria.
    Your search has resulted in 0 licenses

    Licenses fitting search criteria:
    Profession equals Psychologist
    Last Name beginning with lynn
    First Name beginning with terry

    There are no licensees fitting this criteria.
    Your search has resulted in 0 licenses

    Licenses fitting search criteria:
    Profession equals Psychologist
    Last Name beginning with Lynn
    First Name beginning with Terence

    There are no licensees fitting this criteria.
    Your search has resulted in 0 licenses

  91. Ken Savage 23 April 2006 at 2:09 pm Permalink

    Interesting.

  92. Chooses to remain anonymous 23 April 2006 at 5:28 pm Permalink

    And yet, if one does a search on the Mass Division of Professional Licensure web site for

    Profession equals Mental Health Counselor
    Last Name beginning with lynn

    up pops LYNN TERENCE F.
    license # 4998

    There is no reason to assume that “Adam” is Terence Lynn (in fact, in post 279, someone says Adam is “posing as a male”), which would be the only way for what Church Mouse says to be relevant.

    I do not know Terence Lynn, I do not know what his involvement in this case may or may not be, but let’s not attempt to draw attention away from someone who has absolutely no license at all, and yet held herself out to be a psychologist, to someone who does not claim to be a psychologist and has the license he claims to have.

  93. Chooses to remain anonymous 23 April 2006 at 6:01 pm Permalink

    I’d like to correct myself. I realize now, after rereading the posts and Terence’s web site(including the one by Adam that was deleted ~ I printed it out long ago) that the only one who is calling Terence a psychologist is Church Mouse. Therefore, everything Church Mouse said is irrelevant.

    Again, let’s not attempt to draw attention away from someone who has absolutely no license at all, and yet held herself out to be a psychologist, to someone who does not claim to be a psychologist and has the license he claims to have.

  94. church mouse 25 April 2006 at 11:30 pm Permalink

    interesting that investigating Mr. Lynn who, in print, did indeed represent himself to be a psychologist, an “expert” in so many areas, has disassembled his web sites – an agency investigation also
    discovered Mr. Lynn never to have been a Boston Police Officer, or a DEA agent, and there is no record of his being an expert in any court in the state of Massachusetts.
    There is no evidence that Lucy
    has lied. Only hearsay. Whereas
    here we have a fellow who
    thinks he can bully
    someone else and draw attention away from him. When it is in print, I am afraid there is little defense.
    The guy sounds a bit scary.

  95. church mouse 25 April 2006 at 11:32 pm Permalink

    I bet that Mr. Lynn will be exposed on the up and coming website “notapsychologist.com”
    right alongside Lucy. His profile will weigh in with far more incriminating evidence
    however – impersonating a cop, misrepresentation all over the place. I hope he is running and hiding.

  96. church mouse 25 April 2006 at 11:45 pm Permalink

    http://www.smarthunt.com/resume.cfm?portfolioid=26516

    OBJECTIVE
    I am a Ph.D. candidate. Two graduate degrees, college profeesor with experience in teaching police/intelligence. Former DEA Task Force Agent (NOT), Former Police Officer (NH) and Massachusetts.

    RELOCATE
    MD MA RI VT

    Terence F. Lynn, M.Ed., C.A.G.S., L.M.H.C.

    Professional Statement:

    An experienced college professor in the art and science of psychology, and epistemological discourse of adult learning styles. A former decorated DEA narcotics agent (NOT)
    and graduate of the New Hampshire State Police Academy and Massachusetts Police Academy.

    An expert witness under Federal Rule of Evidence 702 on psychology (CAN WE BE AN EXPERT WITHOUT EVEN HAVING AN EDUCATION IN THE FIELD??) and psychometrics. Academically published on the field of psychology.

    Qualifications:

    Licensed Clinical Therapist- Commonwealth of Massachusetts #4998

    Diplomate American College of Forensic Examiners #21862Boston President ACFE

    DEA Task Force Agent Graduate (THOUGHT HE WAS DECORATED)

    Massachusetts Police Academy Class (WHICH POLICE EXACTLY? THE ONES THAT WORK IN THE HOUSING AREA) 65-90

    NH State Police Academy Class 110 (CURIOUS HE DID NOT BECOME A POLICE OFFICER)

    Plethysmograph Trained

    Education:

    2000-Present Doctor of Philosophy in Education. Lesley University All But Dissertation (THIS IS SO RIDICULOUS AND HE SHOULD BE ASHAMED)(MAYBE LESLEY SHOULD SEE THIS TOO)

    2005-Present C.A.G.S. Educational Leadership Suffolk University

    1997-1999 C.A.G.S. Counseling Psychology Suffolk University

    1995-1997 Master of Education in Clinical Psychology. Cambridge College (IS THIS THE NIGHT SCHOOL)

    1992-1995 Bachelor of Arts in Psychology. Boston College (CAN SOMEONE CHECK INTO BC?)

    Experience:

    2003-Present Visiting Lecturer. Bridgewater State College (Research Methods, Psychology of Criminal Behavior, Introduction to Psychology.)

    2003-2004 Visiting Professor. Lasell College (Psychology, Criminal Justice, Forensics, Psychology of Adjustment.)

    2001-Present Visiting Professor. Assumption College (Psychology, Deviance, Criminology, Forensic Science, Forensic Psychology.)

    2000-2002 Visiting Lecturer. Framingham State College DGCE Graduate Psychology (Psychometrics, Statistics.)

    1999-Present Visiting Professor. Western New England College (Police Program). (Psychology, Interviewing, Police Stress, Psychology of Women, Cultural Psychology, Abnormal Psychology, Social Environment and Psychology, Forensic Science.)

    I also have taught Psychology at Cape Cod Community College. Drugs and Behavior at Worcester State

    College. Communications, and Gender Communication at Curry College. Abnormal Psychology

    at Springfield College. Psychology, Criminal Justice, Criminal Law, Corrections, and Civil Rights at

    Bay State College.

    2000-2000 Forensic Evaluation Team (Plethysmograph Analysis) at the Massachusetts Treatment Center for the Sexually Dangerous.

    1998-2000 Psychiatric Evaluator. South Shore Mental Health. (HOW CAN ONE BE A PSYCHIATRIC EVALUATOR WITHOUT HAVING AN MD?)

    1997-1998 Therapist C-Team (Psychology). Massachusetts Treatment Center for the Sexually Dangerous. (OH YES – WITH NANCY DIZIO – SAY WASN’T SHE GRANDFATHERED IN?)

    1996-1997 Acting Chief of Police. Sugar Hill Police Department, NH. (SOMEONE CHECK THIS OUT)

    1991-1995 Undercover Police Officer. Boston Housing Police Department. OHHHH

    1989-1991 Federal Task Force Agent U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration (Cape Cod). NOPE

    1989-1989 Police Officer. Yarmouth, MA Police Department. Promoted to Drug Task Force.

    1985-1989 United States Marine Corps.

    Professional Training:

    New Hampshire State Police Academy Class 110

    Massachusetts Police Academy Class 65-90

    DEA Task Force Agent School

    Boston Police Academy Community Police Training

    Advanced Gang Investigator School

    Drug Unit Commander School

    Massachusetts State Police Basic and Advanced Narcotics School

    Explosive Device School

    Glock Armory School

    Weapons Expert

    MTA Member

    MCCC Member

    Mass State Higher Education Union Member (Bridgewater Chapter)

    Forensic Sex Crimes and Typologies

    Designed Forensic Science Course

    Designed Forensic Psychology Course

    NH State Police Weapons Expert

    MA Police Weapons Expert

    DEA Weapons Expert

    Chapter President American College of Forensic Examiners

    Over 500 Narcotic Investigations

    Over 700 Psychiatric Evaluations (WOWIE – AS A NON PSYCHIATRIST??? DONT THINK SO)

    Erotic Crime

    DEA Asset Crime School

    White Collar Crime School

    Publications:

    Lynn, T. (2002). Police Suicide. Law Enforcement Executive Forum 2(4). 173-185

    Ettinger, R. & Lynn, T. (2005). Understanding psychology (1st Edition). Horizon Publishing ISBN# 1-59602-209-4

    Trooper News: Police Suicide (9 part series)

    Big Crime: Little Culprits

    New York Daily Freeman: Police Stress (OH YES – HERE IT IS – THE ARTICLE WHERE MR LYNN STATES HE IS A PSYCHOLOGIST)

  97. church mouse 25 April 2006 at 11:47 pm Permalink

    wikipedia..
    Terence Lynn
    I originally prodded this as Very little of this seems verifiable from independent sources. The cited site is basically advertising his services.. It has been cleaned up substantially since then and the prod tag removed but verifiability and notability remain issues.
    • Delete as per my nom. Dlyons493 Talk 08:51, 25 March 2006 (UTC)]]
    • Keep. Good article.User:ViniVediVici
    • Delete pending verification. (Google gets nothing for “Terence Lynn” with Abu Ghraib or Guantanamo.) Bucketsofg 09:20, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
    • Delete. Doesn’t sound notable by his own merits. He’s been involved in notable events, but there’s nothing to make he himself notable. –Icarus 10:03, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
    • Delete as non-notable. –Ed (Edgar181) 11:47, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
    • Delete, nn. –Terence Ong 13:43, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
    • Keep. (Google notes “Terence Lynn CIA”.) Author appeared on Good Morning America in book “Under” Sarge Baldy 13:17, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
    o [11] gives me nothing except his own site. Am I missing something? Dlyons493 Talk 21:53, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
    • Delete, nn Bridesmill 22:31, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
    • Delete nn. ¡Dustimagic! (T/C) 00:18, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
    I vote to keep, he is referenced pretty clearly om web and in print media.
    • Delete per above. –Khoikhoi 04:27, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
    • Delete. — Necrothesp 20:10, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
    • Delete per above. ProhibitOnions 23:26, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
    • Keep. Seems quite a lot of people are aware of this person. JeffBurdges 16:38, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
    • Keep, collectively notable. -Sean Curtin 19:49, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
    • Delete; I think this person’s media mentions are more along the lines of “guy involved in a news story” rather than any personal notability. MCB 07:49, 27 March 2006 (UTC

  98. church mouse 25 April 2006 at 11:48 pm Permalink

    ACCORDING TO LESLEY ???
    Terence Lynn, Psychology. Massachusetts Criminal Justice Training Council, Barnstable Police Academy; New Hampshire State Police Academy; M.Ed., Cambridge College; C.A.G.S., Suffolk University; Ph.D., Lesley University.

  99. ken 26 April 2006 at 12:50 am Permalink

    lucy has donne so much good for her patients why not leave her alone and let her continue the good work she is doing.i remember her from many years ago when i work in the Zone she was sweet sweet caring lady back then and i am suree is the same today.leave the woman alone dont drag her past out now judge her by what she is doing now now by what she did in the past.i back her 150% now, so let her be.she is now and was back then a wonderful,caring sweet LADY

  100. A. Bored Reader 26 April 2006 at 6:02 am Permalink

    Ken,

    Don’t you think that this discussion has come to an end? I can’t even discern what everyone is talking about.

    Might be a good time to retire this whole subject. Or is the title too good to give up, because it draws readers to your website?

    A. Bored Reader

  101. Ken Savage 26 April 2006 at 2:07 pm Permalink

    I’m not replying someone else is named Ken. If you don’t want to read it anymore don’t reply. Some people are getting something out of this website.

  102. Claire 3 May 2006 at 8:46 pm Permalink

    http://www.capecodonline.com/cctimes/capetherapist3.htm
    A friend of mine sent me this link regarding a woman in Mashpee who has been practicing as a pyschologist for 10 years without a degree or license. She was “posing as a psychologist” as well.

  103. Ken Savage 3 May 2006 at 9:18 pm Permalink

    Is it that easy to say you’re a psychologist and start charging people money?

    How do they charge the insurance companies?

  104. claire 4 May 2006 at 7:02 am Permalink

    I am not sure how they get around the insurance companies. With Lucy, we always paid up front and then sometimes were reimbursed by the insurance company.
    This other woman in Mashpee has practiced for 10 years without being noticed. Amazing.
    If she helped some people, does it make it ok?
    This story was a featured in the paper and she did not even have an interesting past…

  105. his name is terence lynn 11 May 2006 at 7:35 am Permalink

    and now more of the story will be told as things emerge and unfold naturally.

  106. his name is terence lynn 11 May 2006 at 7:38 am Permalink

    watch how his website changes, how his web archives are no longer available (“blocked”) but I have them ALL, how last week he was so many things and now he is not. Did any of you catch the video he fabricated? I think he finally took it off his web site given he used TV stations etc. Oh. I have that too.

    Counter-stalking? Is this like countersurveillance?

  107. his name is terence lynn 11 May 2006 at 7:40 am Permalink

    Ken,
    Notice the scary talking person on his site
    today is named Ken (he will change it now)

  108. his name is terence lynn 11 May 2006 at 9:07 am Permalink

    yes he has changed it now – cool -

  109. his name is terence lynn 11 May 2006 at 9:09 am Permalink

    at one point his website said “you don’t know what lengths I will go to when Prof Lynn has been upset by you. See you soon Princess.” All on tape. All saved to disk etc.

  110. his name is terence lynn 11 May 2006 at 12:51 pm Permalink

    policestress.com is his website

    Another phase of relief where I no longer need to fight being in a closet!! It is me, the me who has known how all along the story would emerge to tell the truth.

  111. claire 11 May 2006 at 3:09 pm Permalink

    I have no idea what is being said regarding Terence Lynn. The pertaining information was edited out so unless you happened to make a copy of the blog (I have better things to do) then you are in the dark. If Mr.Lynn is indeed a fraud, then he should be found out as well. It is wrong.
    Perhaps Lucy should start her own Terence Lynn blog and keep things there.
    Enough with the cryptic messages.

  112. his name is terence lynn 12 May 2006 at 7:51 am Permalink

    terence lynn has a web site not a blog Carol.

  113. his name is terence lynn 12 May 2006 at 7:58 am Permalink

    Prof. Terence F. Lynn Professor

    Assumption College
    Worcester, Massachusetts

    Employment History

    Teacher2
    Assumption College – Worcester, Massachusetts

    Lecturer In Psychology2
    Assumption College – Worcester, Massachusetts

    Professor1
    Bridgewater State College

    Professor1
    Western New England College

    Teacher2
    Western New England College

    Lecturer In Criminal Law2
    Bay State College

    Faculty3
    Bay State College

    Adjunct Lecturer In Psychology2
    Bay State College

    Lecturer In Psychology2
    Worcester State College

    USCS

    Police Officer and Task Force Agent1
    United States Drug Enforcement Administration

    Chapter Coordinator1
    American College of Forensic Examiners

    Agent1
    Drug Enforcement Administration

    Massachusetts Treatment Center for the Sexually Dangerous

    Visiting Lecturer In the Department of Psychology2
    Framingham State College

    ATF

    Boston Housing Police

    Police Officer and Undercover D.E.A. Task Force Agent2
    Cape Cod Drug Task Force

    Visiting Lecturer In the Criminal Justice Program2
    Curry College

    Massachusetts State Police

    MBTA Police

    Yarmouth Police Department

    Board Membership and Affiliations

    Member2
    Emerald Society of the Boston Police Department

    licensed clinical therapist1

    Education

    DEA Task Force Agent Training School

    Master of Education, Psychological Studies and Counseling Psychology2

    C.A.G.S., Counseling Psychology2

    M.C.J.T.C. Class

    Doctor2
    Lesley University

  114. his name is terence lynn 12 May 2006 at 8:00 am Permalink

    Terence Lynn is an expert witness in police psychology and has testified at the state and federal level on such issues. Terence has worked undercover with DEA, ATF, MSP, BPD, USCS, and many other agencies during his police tenure. In addition, Terence is an expert witness on psychological operations and terrorism psychopathology. Terence has been involved in over five hundred narcotic cases during his career. He has conducted over seven hundred emergency psychiatric evaluations. He is an expert witness on human deviance, narcotics, weapons, psychology, and psychometrics.

    Professor Lynn is available to consult on police psychology.

  115. his name is terence lynn 12 May 2006 at 8:00 am Permalink

    Professor Lynn also is afiliated with a PSYOPS Team for an Intelligence Agency of the US and travel is frequent.

  116. his name is terence lynn 12 May 2006 at 8:02 am Permalink

    This summary was created using information submitted by this person.

    Board Membership and Affiliations

    President Boston Chapter
    American College of Forensic Examiners – Boston, USA

    Certifications

    Lmhc
    Division of Professional Licensure

    Education

    Ph.D., Cags, Cags, Master of Education, Psychology, Education
    Lesley University

    Biography

    Former police officer, federal agent, and government trainer.

  117. his name is terence lynn 12 May 2006 at 8:03 am Permalink

    “People are by nature diurnal animals,” said psychologist Terrence Lynn, a former Boston housing police officer, now a professor at LaSalle College in Newton, Mass. “They were not meant to work midnights.

    This, Lynn said, is where the biggest source of police burnout – boredom – comes into play.

    According to Lynn a study conducted by the Massachusetts Criminal Justice Training Council found that 70 percent of police recruits who were married or in long-term relationships when they entered training were separated from their partners within 18 months of starting the job.

    Lynn said the qualities that make cop effective on the street can be disastrous when applied to home life.

    “As a police officer on the street, you expect that when you give an order it will be obeyed,” he said.

    Lynn and other police stress experts, however, contend that while critical incident teams can be effective in dealing with immediate trauma, the employee assistance programs meant to deal with more long-standing issues are rarely as airtight as officers might believe. Officers who go to employee assistance program social workers with serious problems, such as drug addiction or violent impulses, may find that word leaks out and they end up branded a “rubber gun,” a cop who can’t be trusted on the streets, and may be quietly assigned to desk duty for the remainder of their careers.

    According to Lynn, many police officers, mindful that a reputation for mental instability is fatal to a law enforcement career, are justifiably reluctant to take advantage of any department-sponsored counseling service.

    “My advice to cops, and this is unfortunate, is that if you need help, go outside the department, go outside the area, go outside the state if you have to, and just pay cash,” he said.

  118. his name is terence lynn 12 May 2006 at 8:03 am Permalink

    Expert witness Terence Lynn, a former undercover agent for the Drug Enforcement Administration who has studied psychology and criminology, testified that Woodall was not trained to deal with the psychological pressure of undercover work, was not rotated out of undercover duty and did not have direct supervision for two years before his arrest.

  119. claire 12 May 2006 at 11:33 am Permalink

    What does ANY of this have to do with Lucy Wighman?

  120. his name is terence lynn 13 May 2006 at 12:51 pm Permalink

    http://notapsychologist.com/index.html

  121. his name is terence lynn 14 May 2006 at 10:24 pm Permalink

    Ken – if you run into problems you know how to be in touch – there were some threats to you on a quickly vanishing blog this morning – if you live in a town that starts with D then Terry Lynn has you pegged and targetted – perhaps all talk – but I have copies of these as well – so do the police. Only way to stop a bully is to be strong.

  122. Offshore 15 May 2006 at 11:56 am Permalink

    Claire, it has everything to do with Lucy. You see, if she can distract people enough with the red herring of Terrence Lynn, two things will happen:
    1. They’ll forget that the question is about whether Lucy acted illegally or immorally.
    2. They’ll think that if other people did the same illegal and immoral things without getting punished, then Lucy is somehow OK for having done them.
    Note the information that Lucy has posted about Lynn. First, there’s a large amount of it. This is intended to make people think that there must be some truth in her accusations — she’s presented so much evidence that she must be right. And with so much, how many people will really read it all, or look carefully at it to see if it is in fact evidence against Lynn? (Bear in mind that if it were evidence against Lynn it still wouldn’t be evidence for Lucy.) But if you do look carefully at it, an astonishing thing appears — it doesn’t show anything bad about Lynn at all. It says things such as that he’s taught psychology, or that he’s testified as an expert witness in forensic psychology. At no point does he call himself a psychologist. To make her posts more convincing, Lucy’s highlighted each time the word “psychology” or “psychologist” appears. Again, it’s unlikely that readers will go through the whole thing, and will just see they highlighted words pop out. The one time Lynn is called a psychologist, it’s by someone else. Compare this with Lucy, who called herself that.
    So what it has to do with Lucy, Claire, is that Lucy’s trying to fool us into thinking that she did nothing wrong. Let’s not be fooled, OK?

  123. claire 15 May 2006 at 1:58 pm Permalink

    Oh I am not fooled at all. In fact my point in question regarding Terence Lynn was “who cares?” Of course Lucy is trying to smokescreen herself. If you look at her website, it continuously references witchhunts and the media. Blah, blah, blah. She did something wrong, she is deceitful and is trying to make Terence Lynn out to be a monster. Maybe he is. Not my problem since I have no idea who the guy is. If he is doing something shady, well he will probably be turned over to Fox25 news shortly. The continuous lengthy notes regarding him are tedious and you are right, I do not read them. No interest there. Perhaps Lucy is finding a lot of time on her hands.
    If she wanted to contact Ken about a potential “problem” she could have done so privately. Of course, this is all about the drama. Please.

  124. lucy torri wightman's mother 17 May 2006 at 12:28 am Permalink

    thank you for your support. our daughter died yesterday at age 16.
    all of you judgemental cold people form your own god damn club. i will stick to what matters. mind games. the truth will come out.

  125. lucy torri wightman's mother 17 May 2006 at 12:29 am Permalink

    the TRUTH ABOUT THE MIND GAMES and what has caused a human life to be lost – go away all of you – go to hell and rot

  126. Ken Savage 17 May 2006 at 12:39 am Permalink

    Show me this blog that something was written about me…

  127. Annie 17 May 2006 at 10:07 am Permalink

    To the people who continually post: Let it go…stop sensationalizing over these stories!
    To Lucy: You have my heartfelt, deepest sympathies about the loss of your daughter.

  128. Offshore 17 May 2006 at 12:32 pm Permalink

    Lucy –

    I am so sorry to hear about your daughter. No parent should have to go through that.

  129. Chris 17 May 2006 at 12:40 pm Permalink

    I thought I believed in the saying, “what goes around, comes around.” I no longer do. Just a few weeks ago I asked my (very wise) therapist, do you believe in the saying, to which she replied, not necessarily, why? I said because I’m going through some shitty stuff right now, and I don’t know what I did to deserve it. The answer is, I didn’t do anything to deserve it and surely neither did Lucy to deserve such horrific pain and suffering. All of our troubles pale in comparison. I agree with Annie, Let it go.

  130. claire 17 May 2006 at 1:06 pm Permalink

    Lucy, I am truly sorry to hear about the loss of Torri. No one should ever have to endure that pain. It is every parent’s worst nightmare. I am so sorry.

  131. Old friend of Torri's 17 May 2006 at 9:53 pm Permalink

    i knew Torri through the middle school years when she lived in my town. it saddens me to hear about her death, and although we were never truly close, it still hurt. i wish we were closer through those years, and even though we weren’t i knew she was one of the most carefree and quirky girls that i would know throughout my life. i just saw her about a month ago when i was out to dinner and it’s just weird to know ill never see her again. i hope you’re happy where you are Torri, and you will be missed, you’re on our minds in Hanover, Rest in Peace, and stay beautiful

  132. TORRI IS MY DAUGHTER 20 May 2006 at 7:09 am Permalink

    NOT TO LET ANYONE OR ANYTHING ROB US OF BEING FULLY PRESENT IN OUR CHILDREN’S LIVES NO MATTER HOW COMPLEX OR FRIGHTENING OR COMPELLING… MY CHILD … TRULY NO PERSON THING PLACE OR EVENT CAN TOUCH ME WITH PAIN NOW… A PERSPECTIVE NOW NO PERSON SHOULD HAVE TO SHARE PLEASE NOW LEAVE ME ALONE IF YOU WANT TO HARM ME BECAUSE YOU CANNOT

  133. for torri 22 May 2006 at 9:05 pm Permalink

    and to the individual who needed to say this on my blog: “Lucy, I met you briefly years ago and determined rather quickly that you have borderline personality disorder. The things you’ve said and done since that time have only proven my initial impression to be dead-on accurate.
    May 22, 2006″

  134. for torri 22 May 2006 at 9:07 pm Permalink

    Internet Address: lifespan.lifespan.org/204.17.80.4

    i am too tired to care who this person is who took on the challenge of trying to hurt me MORE but perhaps others are… others who could not imagine what kind of monster could bring him or herself to feast on a grieving family whose perfect daughter is gone.

  135. for torri 22 May 2006 at 9:09 pm Permalink

    ken – i gave the investigative teams copies of the blog entries, my hard drive, all of it. when I can get a copy I will send it to you, openly. what I will say is terence lynn posted this blog briefly, not knowing that his every move on the computer is monitored, but no longer by me. it is handed over to people who know what they are doing. please be careful.

  136. a man named NANCY 26 May 2006 at 10:33 am Permalink

    torri knew enough to have this on her my space… she knew

  137. Lucy 24 June 2006 at 10:55 pm Permalink

    Terence Lynn stepped over the line one too many times. He announced a new website called “torielivesinhell.com.” There will be a hearing on July 26 at 10 am – Hingham District Court to determine if criminal harassment charges are in order.

  138. Ken Savage 24 June 2006 at 10:57 pm Permalink

    I haven’t heard anything about this. Any more info I can do some digging.

  139. J.J. 26 June 2006 at 8:32 am Permalink

    Even as a parent of three, I can’t possibly understand what losing a child is like. I know that the possibility exists, and it scares the hell out of me.

    I once maintained the “follow the money” philosophy regarding the topic that begun this page. I did overlook the fact that there are some people who become so obsessed with others that they can become dangerous. Seems like we have someone like that involved. Not good.

    At the risk of sounding cliche’, I hope that some of the people involved gain some perspective.

  140. Jerr 26 June 2006 at 1:07 pm Permalink

    WHoever has that website has NO CLASS.

    way to go shithead I hope you’re tracked down and prosecuted.

  141. me 26 June 2006 at 4:51 pm Permalink

    Lucy, that is sickening – I hope you did take him to court, I hope he is charged with harassment. It’s beyond having ‘no class’.

    Really SICK.

  142. Lucy 17 August 2006 at 2:22 pm Permalink

    Ken,
    I wanted you to be aware of this…
    hookerstalker — Comments

    Page 1 of 1

    Sunday, 14 May 2006

    Hi everyone
    Now Playing: Dr. Maggie is here
    Hi, I wanted to start this blog

    Posted by crazy/freepsycadvice at 12:21 AM EDT

    Post a Comment

    Sunday, 14 May 2006 – 12:59 AM EDT

    Name: crazy fan

    man, I saw this show years ago…she is the bomb

    Reply to this Comment

    Sunday, 14 May 2006 – 1:33 AM EDT

    Name: joint crawler

    what a cooter…NICE, but that was 1984, probably a bit aged by now…maybe not…

    Reply to this Comment

    Sunday, 14 May 2006 – 1:07 AM EDT

    Name: Emma
    E-Mail: bebopaloobop

    What the fuck man, I have been in this from the start, I dated her, I am fuckin with some dudes head he fucked me over years ago

    Reply to this Comment

    Sunday, 14 May 2006 – 1:05 AM EDT

    Name: hit me baby one more ime

    Do people want to know where on Forest Park, Ken lives with family? How the hell does some moron think that they can remain hidden. Who the hell does one think they are to have some false information posted about someone from an ex-hooker. Did you not realize you put the life of a person’s family in danger? Did you not write about the sanctity of keeping a family safe. I would suggest you revise your blog babycakes.

    Reply to this Comment

    Sunday, 14 May 2006 – 1:14 AM EDT

    Name: DD Fitz

    hi

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    Sunday, 14 May 2006 – 1:20 AM EDT

    Name: meemie
    E-Mail: hh@didkt.com

    no, but some one wanted to know if it was hingham?? I think near Norwell

  143. ex DOC 19 September 2006 at 1:09 pm Permalink

    my father just retired from DOC. i just graduated from college, and i took one course from this creep terry lynn. my father knew terry lynn and nancy dizzio and lucy wightman where he worked. he says that lucy wightman was one of the most well-respected interns there and that she was not fired. she was forced out because this guy terry lynn and nancy dizzio spread information about her former dancing career and he saw the picture nancy was passing around. they all sat around laughing about it. terry lynn didn’t even work there at the time anymore. but my dad says he and this nancy person were obsessed, for very different reasons. so here was lucy all of sudden exposed in a building filled with sex offenders, nearing the end of her two years internship. most any of us would never have seen the merits of working with all those rapists etc to begin with, never mind stay after such a betrayal. my father says lucy has gotten a raw deal and has been witch hunted by weak and evil people. and that terry lynn was an odd duck, never had expression, was cold. he threatened her daughter, my father showed me the guys website before she was killed…

  144. ex DOC 19 September 2006 at 1:12 pm Permalink

    look at the threat he makes to ken>>> the guy is a creep and i hope he never finds ken or his kids

  145. Ken Savage 19 September 2006 at 3:20 pm Permalink

    Well if Terry Lynn or Nancy Dizzio wants to make threats to me maybe they should give me a call or email me.

    I’ll be glad to give you my address and you can come over and threaten me to my face. Anyone who knows me knows that I love to talk.

    Lucy is that guy contacting you about me? Are you sure you know who it is?

  146. Lucy 25 September 2006 at 2:58 pm Permalink

    Ken – I like your style. A lot. You know how evasive the internet can be, but yes, I am sure. Although he is clever enough to have it not stand up in court. One stupid thing he did do was to use one of those email anonymizers to email me about 12 times at once. What he failed to realize was that the footer at the bottom of every page said “P.S. This is a fake email address from IP ….” and that was what the police finally got him into court for. Now he has smartened up I am sure and goes to various “places” to do his cyberstalking. I would imagine the possibilities they both have given their prison experience and contact is endless in terms of who might owe favors etc.

  147. Lucy 25 September 2006 at 2:59 pm Permalink

    and who is this DOC person?

  148. sarah 20 October 2006 at 8:13 pm Permalink

    I dont understand all of this. I mean i Know all of these people you all are soo called trashing but its not true what you say. You all hear this one side of the story why cant we all hear all the sides instead of trashing everyone

  149. sarah 20 October 2006 at 8:20 pm Permalink

    people are saying that there is trash talking and such going on yet im reading all of this and that is what im seeing. maybe i dont know as much as i think about this whole thing but i know that people are saying things on this page that others are doing yet ……on other websites that i see yall are doing the same things back.

  150. patience 28 October 2006 at 12:13 pm Permalink

    With patience the law will uncover all of it. In fact, the law is watching this website and finds it very helpful.

  151. Lena 4 May 2007 at 5:05 pm Permalink

    I was a patient of Lucy’s in 2000 and 2001. I thought she was nice until she started charging my credit card for appointments we never had. I am angry over this finding and it explains why she is money hungry. I want everything I paid to her back!

  152. Joanne Brown 4 May 2007 at 5:34 pm Permalink

    I am attempting to get a message to Lucy. Approximately fifteen years ago I was a patient at a psychiatric facility. I was in a trauma recovery program suffering from issues as a result of sexual abuse I endured as a child. Lucy was an intern there at the time. Lucy, if you read this I have thought of you so many times over the years. Do you still have the painting I did for you? Remember of the ocean with the sand castle and lighthouse? Maybe bringing up the painting I did for you will trigger a memory of me for you. I came to depend on you while I was in that program. You were always so kind and caring to me. You helped me immensely. Do you remember the day I had a flashback and came running to you. You were so sensitive and knew that touching me was not the appropriate thing to do under the circumstances. You held one end of a towel and gave the other end to me to hold. You tugged it, helping me to feel a connection without invading me. I kept that towel for many years. I’ve thought of you so much over the years and wished that I could locate you. I wanted to get in touch with you to see how you were and let you know of my progress. I wear amber-patchouli oil! I always loved that scent you wore. I learned of the situation you are in on the news tonight 5/4/07. I searched more on the internet. I was surprised to learn what I did. To be honest I trembled inside for many hours. I guess that in first learning of your past and my past with the history of sexual abuse the two didn’t really tie in together very well. After speaking with friends I am calming now. I’m hoping that somehow you will see this. I want to say that we all do things in our past that maybe we shouldn’t have. Or that maybe others won’t think are proper. Something I have learned over the years and you were one of the people that helped me to learn this is that “we can’t change our pasts. We can only move from them and move forward.”. I will continue to appreciate everything that you did for me. I would really like to be in touch with you. If somehow you find this please do respond. I’m doing well and you are one of the people to help me get where I am. Take care of yourself Lucy. My thoughts and prayers are with you. Sincerely, Joanne Brown

  153. Ken Savage 4 May 2007 at 7:05 pm Permalink

    Look what’s getting dragged up again. Enough already people.

    Good luck to Lucy and how do we get some of those Torri bracelets?

  154. George 7 May 2007 at 1:54 pm Permalink

    I am shocked there were not more (for that matter, now that I remember, there was not one) witnesses for the Commonwealth stating she charged for non-existent services! Usually behaviors like this have patterns. My therapist charges me when I don’t cancell within 48 hours unless he fills the spot left by my thoughtlessness. Of course in an emergency, he is understanding.

  155. Joanne Brown 10 May 2007 at 6:11 pm Permalink

    My heart goes out to Lucy. Her past is not our business. The Lucy I know is a kind, caring, nurturing, giving human being with a lot to give. I really don’t know much of the charges she is facing. I cannot believe Lucy would set out to hurt or take from anyone. I think that there is so much written about her out there that may put doubts in peoples minds, but don’t be fooled. Lucy helped me to see that we can’t change our pasts we can only learn from them and make a better future. She was doing this, she had done this! She helped me to be able to do it! I thank you Lucy.
    It’s a terrible shame that due to the ignorance of others she was not able to complete her education. There are murderers and rapists out there! There are corrupt politicians and drug dealers! Damn, let her be!!
    We are only here once and for a short time. Lucy has been helping others so that they, too, may lead better lives. Don’t take any more time away from her. Hey, give her the oppurtunity to finish her education. She can’t do this because she did things in her past that isn’t considered proper? Take a look in your own closets.
    Lucy was there to support me and now is my turn to support her. I urge all of you that she has been there for to show your support. Put your words out there and help people to know who Lucy Wightman is!

  156. Rhonda 13 May 2007 at 6:07 pm Permalink

    Lucy
    Will be praying for you as will Torri as it will be a very hard day for you.We all know you did help so many people.After reading their stories i have to agree you did no harm to anyone. Good Luck with everything. PS. You know you have a very special Angel watching over you through all this.

  157. Ken Savage 14 May 2007 at 11:54 am Permalink

    Anyone heard anything yet about the sentencing?

  158. Joanne Brown 14 May 2007 at 3:23 pm Permalink

    Louise Wightman, 47, of Hull, was given a suspended six-month sentence and five years probation. Suffolk Superior Court Nancy Staffier Holtz also barred Wightman from counseling.

  159. Joanne Brown 14 May 2007 at 3:25 pm Permalink

    I’m happy that she does not have to serve time in prison. I find it a shame that she is barred from counseling. My thoughts and prayers remain with you Lucy.

  160. kplarian 17 May 2007 at 5:11 pm Permalink

    I am happy she does not have to serve time in prison too. But licenses are licenses– and in order to maintain the integrity of an act that is performed (whether it is plumbing or surgery or driving a car), people who want the priveledge of performing those acts need to do what is required to get their license. Or don’t call themselves that title that requires licensure.

    I agree that Lucy was good at what she did. That is why it is such a shame. But if we were talking about a surgeon who didn’t graduate med school, or a day care center that wasn’t licensed to take care of children, or an airline pilot who dropped out of school when it was learned he had worked at the golden banana before college….it wouldn’t matter HOW GOOD these people were at what they did…

  161. Joanne Brown 18 May 2007 at 11:22 am Permalink

    I do understand what you are saying…but should the pilot have had to drop out of school because he had worked at the golden banana?

  162. kplarian 18 May 2007 at 10:54 pm Permalink

    No he shouldn’t. and he wouldn’t. and if you believe that that is why Ms. Wightman dropped out of school then I have a bridge to sell you in Brooklyn. Come on, Joanne–think it through with logic, not with some lie you have heard. This was a psychology school..and presumably she was a good student with a good performance record almost finished with her education. Psychology is predicated on the belief that a person has the capacity to change. Do you REALLY think this free-thinking school that cares about human development would have not worked with her if this was her reason for wanting to leave? I hope she won big in the lawsuit if that was really the reason….for being harrassed or not getting transferred to a new rotation or not getting protected by her supervisors or not getting a modified plan for finishing up or not being allowed to take time off and then return…. Or in the very least, I sure do hope she got her money back–for having been admitted in the first place if there was a rule that you couldn’t be there if you were ever a stripper. And I hope some heads rolled in admissions for THAT oversight–yeah. How could they have forgotten to tell Ms. Wightman that anyone could apply to their school except strippers???

  163. George 23 May 2007 at 9:17 am Permalink

    The possibilities are endless. Fact is – Ms. WIghtman testified on her own behalf, under oath. She was the only witness for her defense to speak of. The prosecution did not allow for much else. Not once was she tripped up on cross – she was telling the truth which was obvious to us and to the jury. This is why she was found not guilty on the weightiest charges. I should re-write this as she was NOT GUILTY on the WEIGHTIEST CHARGES. The coloring from her past colors how we fill in the gaps to the story. Her testimony was not found to be in contempt. You must let it stand on its own. Ms. Wightman stated she was working in a small private practice under the supervision of several licensed individuals to include Robert Fox LICSW and Karen Beason Patrick, a licensed psychologist with whom she formed a business, who was also a graduate of MSPP. Ms. Wightman further states that she was trying to finish her dissertation, had collected ALL of the data and had completed ALL of her coursework (yes it was admitted into evidence), and was railroaded, caught off guard, when she was confronted with being in private practice and as having been a stripper – the conclusion was made that she was therefore being sexually inappropriate with patients! She had to sit in a room with seven “psychologists” or people in the “helping profession” who were nothing short of humiliating. She was not the only person in the school to have a private practice. In fact, she mentioned a Danielle Detorra from Stow, Massachusetts, who was also being supervised by Karen Patrick, and who was STILL working as a stripper in Providence. Wightman had allegedly guided her so she could pay her tuition bills. She was not harassed. In listening to Norbett Mintz, Wightman’s advisor, on the stand, he contradicted himself blatantly! Maybe if Wightman had a more experienced attorney the Commonwealth’s witnesses could have been shown more obviously to not be telling the truth. The story is far from over, and is less about one woman than it is about human behavior, scapegoating and cultural norms and assumptions, not to mention the politcal process.


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