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  kickback999

  09/01/2008 at 6:10 pm

  Actually you couldn’t be more wrong in anything you said there at all.
  Firstly it was the Italians/English who discovered NORTH America (no one can really prove who got their first but some say it was Amerigo Vespucci (who named it after himself) and some say it was John Cabot, who named it after the wealthy English (Welsh really) land owner, Richard Amerik, who funded his expedition so because of this he went there under the English flag. BTW it was SOUTH America that the Spanish are widely believed to have discovered.
  Also, you didn’t “kick our faces in”, the British Army fought a total of 10 battles with the Continental Army and won seven of them.
  Also you were helped by the French, Dutch and Spanish and according to Wikipedia, the Forces fighting for America lost over 7000 more people than us. Finally what I meant was that Europe founded your country (I would never say that Britain did because my knowledge of History is better than that) which is practically true. But anyway both of our countries are likely to portray history in a way that puts them in a better light (look at the frequent “how America won world war 2″ films or that one where those brave Americans went into a German U-Boat and captured the Enigma – even though that was actually the English)

  Now for an English lesson.
  Also, your last paragraph condemning my statement – ”Though the 360 has more games, a lot of them are widely considered to be crap” would have been 100% correct if I had said ‘The 360 has many more games but ALL of them ARE crap’ Infact I actually said (as you correctly quoted but failed to read)
  ”Though the 360 has more games, a lot of them are widely considered to be crap, although” You must have failed to notice that I said “A lot of them” (not ALL of them) are “Widely considered to be crap” (not ARE crap) By saying that I implied that it was the opinion of a lot of people (not myself, because I haven’t tried them) that they are crap. You then proceeded to make a complete tit of yourself by failing to notice that I immediately afterwards mentioned that it does have some truly brilliant games (mainly the ones you mentioned)
  I personally love gears of war it was great fun to play split screen co op round my friends house, Forza 2 looks like a pretty damn good racing simulation (though I have never played it) and I know most people love halo (though I have never played 3 and I thought 1 and 2 were reasonably good but not outstanding) Gears of War if it’s anywhere near as good as its prequel will be great and I really couldn’t comment on The Land Remnant or Tales of Vespersia.

  I would also like to point out that throughout my last post I went though great pain to emphasise that whenever I was stating my opinion, I was stating it as an opinion, not fact.
  You can tell that by my frequent use of phrases such as “in my opinion”, “perceived to be”, “are widely considered” or (although that depends on your opinion). When I was talking about something that I wasn’t sure about I said “as far as I know”
  So no I am at no point presenting my opinion, or even things I don’t know for sure as facts.

  Anyway this is a ps3 vs xbox360 board, we shouldn’t really get so off topic!
  A PS3 makes a much better cheap media center if you want it plugged into your tv, unless you want some huge pc box sat next to your tv with the big cooling fans whirring away all the time. Or you could just use both, I have my pc with all my media on it streaming over the wireless network to the ps3.

  BTW edhe I am sceptical as to whether or not yet another hardware revision really has fixed the dreadful reliability of the xbox, though I would like to be suprised!

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  H.

  09/03/2008 at 2:36 pm

  How is saying something like “perceivED to be” or “widely considered” YOUR opinion. You are the one who needs an english lesson. My point was that you are ignorant about games and gaming in general. The reason I listed games like GOW and Forza II and Fable II is that they are 360 exclusives. Most of the the 360 exclusives have been above average when reviewed. Even JRPG’s like Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey were rated as above average. You failed to name any specifics. I get really annoyed when people make broad unbased statements to further their cause. When you say really stupid things people generally dont pay attention to your point whether it be right or wrong. Oh and your grammar is absolutely pitiful, I know this is a forum but at least make it somewhat readable. Instead of “founding” the U.S.A maybe you should have mastered your own language first.

  Abouth the PS3 being a cheap media center, you are just absolutely dead worng. The 360 has great Windows connectivity (like 90% of all computers use Windows). The PS3 was 500 bucks when I bought it. I built my microATX minibox PC for about the same price and it honestly blows both systems away in terms of a cheap media center.

  The PS3 and Xbox360 are gaming consoles. Unless I totally missed the memo. Why do people always sit there and compare the non-gaming aspects of both systems. They both have an equal number of pros and cons and those are also decided based upon opinion.

  I prefer them both for certain games:

  First Person Shooters / Action / Adventure: Xbox 360 – Controller is more comfortable, Live is really good for multiplayer.

  RPG’s: PS3 – One word, Blu-ray. More content and less discs. I did hear that you will be able to dump games onto the 360 HDD after the fall update. Pretty much any game that would be multi-disc on the 360 and one on the PS3 I would buy for PS3 especially when considering the total hack job packaging that MS did with Lost Odyssey and Blue Dragon. I dont think that multiplayer has a place in a traditional console RPG.

  H.

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  Dooley

  09/03/2008 at 4:26 pm

  The 360 requires Windows to connect to a computer. The PS3 can connect to Windows, Linux and other general purpose devices (like your iShit).

  GOW isn’t a 360 exclusive. It’s on computer, and has content that 360 doesn’t.

  I found his grammar to be fine.

  I prefer PS3 for the quality of experience. Why play Forza 2 with a 360 wheel when:
  GT5p, G25. Dirt, G25. Grid, G25. Online experience? I have chat, join games with friends, don’t pay a dime per year.

  I don’t care if people say stupid things. If I didn’t pay attention, I wouldn’t be able to make the arguements that I do.

  The hard drive install is something I’m eager for, because it means Sony may try to develop something similiar for our end of it. I hope Microsoft produces a larger HDD for the 360 though. Like say, 250 gigabytes?
  Something tells me it will cost more than my 250gb hdd did. Mine cost me a hundred thirty bucks.

  As a unit that comes with hi definition output, a bluray drive, and remote control, I think the PS3 beats the piss out of your MicroATX everyday of the week. What kind of video card did you say you installed? How much RAM? HDD space? What operating system? Did you install a wireless card? Do you have any infrared controls?

  Anyhow…

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  Arnav

  09/03/2008 at 9:14 pm

  Dude

  I think i would not buy a 360 cuz u have pay money on online so ps3 is free online and also wii too

  Actually i think so i pick sony station cuz i am fan playstation and also good HD and blu-ray…
  PS3 have awesome games like Action,adventure,shooting..

  Xbox 360 only have same HALO games but it gay games i just have PS2 so It very lighter but it not good of TV and 360 also can be good with Junk TV or normal Tv not HD TV….

  I am not fan of wii! 360 kind of ok but i am not feeling excited so sometimes i like ps3 with HD tv it rock man!

  I know 360 have 120GB too. it doesn’t matter if i like it but u can’t forced me to buy 360 ok dude?

  This Site is kind of suck

  cuz they like 360!

  bye

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  Noodles

  09/04/2008 at 12:00 am

  “The PS3 and Xbox360 are gaming consoles. Unless I totally missed the memo. Why do people always sit there and compare the non-gaming aspects of both systems. They both have an equal number of pros and cons and those are also decided based upon opinion.”

  Perfectly put.

  Plus games are also opinionated. Just because one person thinks GoW or (insert other game) sucks does not mean that it does for you. Plus this thread should die anyway, we all have our opinions on what console is better lol

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  Dooley

  09/04/2008 at 2:08 am

  Because people like me disagree with people like that.
  People like me believe a Next Gen console should sport features that set it apart from the predecessor, such as BluRay, modular third party support, and a great library of high quality games.

  People like that seem to believe that Next Gen means Microtransactions, Consumer grade electronics, and faulty, aged hardware.

  http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=18914
  So much for that Triple Xenon… anyone else think it sounds like a Robotic Coronary Bypass? This R2 units requires the Triple Xenon proceadure!
  *gasp*! Anything but!…the Triple Xenon proceadure!

  Seriously though, the point is that I argue all the capabilities of the system because you’re absolutely right, the rest IS just opinion.
  The PS3 uses half the resources and allows everything the 360 does, plus much more, whereas the 360 doesn’t quite offer much more than just Games.

  Bang for buck? PS3.
  Halo? 360.

  As far as online goes, I’ve said it before, other have too: Online PS3 is all that and a bag of chips. They don’t pay me to say that.
  Why do I keep responding to this thread?
  …I don’t know.
  I guess I just like looking stuff up…. and sharing it.. like Herpes.

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  edhe

  09/04/2008 at 7:25 am

  For RPGs you want the 360, sony have badly lost their ‘RPG Console’ image, the 360 is getting so many there’s no time

  Wierd, every ps3 advicate i’ve met never actually plays many games, even the exclusives. Every 360 advocate is an avid gamer.

  Funky.

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  Dooley

  09/04/2008 at 9:05 am

  Guess I didn’t mention it in That post.
  Sorry. Now for Edhe: G25, GT5p.
  Truly Exclusive Game. Completely Third Party Wheel. Completely supported.

  God bless the clutch.

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  H.

  09/04/2008 at 12:24 pm

  Have any of you ever attended any kind of economics class? I know that you all love your free PSN and for the time being it looks to be catching up with XBL in terms of service quality but can any of you explain to me how Sony can afford to do this for free or why they even would? They are in last place on both gaming fronts. The Wii and 360 have both sold more units than the PS3 and the Nintendo DS has sold more than two times as many units as the PSP. Face it, If PSN is going to STAY competitive with XBL you are going to have to pay for it, somehow. The multiplayer aspect of XBL is set to become a silver service in the fall anyways, but that is really a move against PSN and has nothing to do with demand IMO.
  ******
  Dooley, I really like to play racing games like the GT series. I like crashing into a wall and bouncing three times in my invincimobile. Good luck with your clutch. You could just drive a real car. I think you invented the G25 racing wheel the way you try to whore it out to everyone. The reason Xbox games go to Windows is because MS owns windows so it kind of makes sense that they would port it. 360 exclusives may all eventually port to PC but you will NEVER play them on your PS3.
  ******
  Oh and about microtransactions, buying live points makes sense for a money machine like Microsoft. When you buy stuff with a credit card the card company charges the merchant a fee. Thats why small businesses have a minimum CC fee, they are trying to regain profits lost the the card company. MS effectively cuts that problem out by selling points through retailers. If you wanted to download a game that was a dollar value online you would have to use a credit card. Microsoft would have to pay a fee for every purchase, with a points system it doesnt.
  ******
  A year from now you will either be paying for a robust version of PSN or you will be using the same version you have now. MS is making multiplayer free. People can hate on the 360 all the want, People like Dooley just keep pointing out the same things that no one who purchased a console to play games cares about. Every single one of my friends that got a PS3 before a 360 likes the PS3 more and Every single one that got the 360 first likes the 360 more. EVERYTHING about this thread is an opinion.
  ******
  If you think that Kickback999 even understand the english language you really need to evaluate your own grasp. Dont brown nose him because he is a fellow PS3 lover. Shame on you.

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  H.

  09/04/2008 at 12:25 pm

  Have any of you ever attended any kind of economics class? I know that you all love your free PSN and for the time being it looks to be catching up with XBL in terms of service quality but can any of you explain to me how Sony can afford to do this for free or why they even would? They are in last place on both gaming fronts. The Wii and 360 have both sold more units than the PS3 and the Nintendo DS has sold more than two times as many units as the PSP. Face it, If PSN is going to STAY competitive with XBL you are going to have to pay for it, somehow. The multiplayer aspect of XBL is set to become a silver service in the fall anyways, but that is really a move against PSN and has nothing to do with demand IMO.
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  Dooley, I really like to play racing games like the GT series. I like crashing into a wall and bouncing three times in my invincimobile. Good luck with your clutch. You could just drive a real car. I think you invented the G25 racing wheel the way you try to whore it out to everyone. The reason Xbox games go to Windows is because MS owns windows so it kind of makes sense that they would port it. 360 exclusives may all eventually port to PC but you will NEVER play them on your PS3.
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  Oh and about microtransactions, buying live points makes sense for a money machine like Microsoft. When you buy stuff with a credit card the card company charges the merchant a fee. Thats why small businesses have a minimum CC fee, they are trying to regain profits lost the the card company. MS effectively cuts that problem out by selling points through retailers. If you wanted to download a game that was a dollar value online you would have to use a credit card. Microsoft would have to pay a fee for every purchase, with a points system it doesnt.
  ******
  A year from now you will either be paying for a robust version of PSN or you will be using the same version you have now. MS is making multiplayer free. People can hate on the 360 all the want, People like Dooley just keep pointing out the same things that no one who purchased a console to play games cares about. Every single one of my friends that got a PS3 before a 360 likes the PS3 more and Every single one that got the 360 first likes the 360 more. EVERYTHING about this thread is an opinion.
  ******
  If you think that Kickback999 even understands the english language you really need to evaluate your own grasp. Dont brown nose him because he is a fellow PS3 lover. Shame on you.

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  Dooley

  09/04/2008 at 2:29 pm

  Brown nose who for what, Horseshit?
  The guy made perfectly valid points and demonstrated that you make the same dumb ass statements that we all do, so don’t try to sell yourself to saint hood. Shame on who?

  My points are based on end user experience.
  It’s funny to me that all 360 owners cry and gnash their teeth because they’re sick of hearing it, but PS has all the cool hardware. The 360 has fucking crap.

  Yes, Happy, Microtransactions do make sense for Microsoft. In exactly the way you just stated.
  Funny thing is, in the PSN world, we do the same thing. But we don’t buy faggot stuff like points. We ‘add money’ to our ‘psn wallet’. So the account has a Dollar Value. That way we don’t run into the ‘more buns than hotdogs’ problem.
  In fact (not making this up) if I had a few bucks on my account and I try to purchase something, the network will let me add EXACTLY enough money (it calculates the taxes in too) to buy the game, rather than me buying a block of points and having to hold them until the next purchase.

  That sounds like a better user experience to me. Different strokes for different blokes, I suppose.

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  H.

  09/05/2008 at 1:16 pm

  Dooley,

  You again missed the tough question in order to rant about how great the PS3 is. I think you totally misunderstand me. I really do think that the PS3 is a better system. The hardware is way better than the 360. PSN is really catching live. You will probably own your PS for another 3-5 years before something new comes out on the Sony end, MS will release the next gen Xbox much sooner. But the tough question is, How is Sony going to keep PSN on the same page as Live quality wise without collecting some sort of fee? Im asking this because PS3ers always bitch about how you have to pay for live (multiplayer is going to be free sonn BTW).
  *****
  I know how the pay system on PSN works, In fact I like it better. All that great functionality comes at a price though. At least it will eventually come at a price. Big companies with stockholders dont do ANYTHING for free.

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  edhe

  09/05/2008 at 1:51 pm

  And yet PSN completely excludes those without credit/debit cards, up until recently.
  And those PSN cards don’t take tax into account, so a $20 token can’t get 2x $10 games.

  It’s like 2005 all over again Sony.

  Shame you can’t get a 3rd party logitech device and some half-baked racing sim to make your product work for everyone.

  you wonder if they even thought things through, at all, with the ps3.

  NB, cool hardware? Like what? a prototype DSP chip and a donkey slow media drive? Or is it the G25 that’s so cool.

  You keep bloke stroking that G25, it obviously float your boat.

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  mzapl

  09/05/2008 at 2:11 pm

  __________________________________
  *edhe*
  NB, cool hardware? Like what? a prototype DSP chip and a donkey slow media
  drive? ….
  __________________________________

  Edhe,
  Don’t say things you do not know. Media drive on PS3 is the fastest I ever seen. Keep in mind I am comparing to Dell XPS USB 2.0. If you ever come across a PS# try ANY memory card and you will be blown away by it’s speed.

  Cheers,

  Mzapl

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  edhe

  09/05/2008 at 2:17 pm

  Ok, you obviously weren’t talking about the blue ray drive, you know, which i was because of the implication of Dooley.

  Catch up man.

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  Dooley

  09/05/2008 at 4:43 pm

  Though the BluRay may be slower, it holds more. So it goes, it’s a trade off.
  I think games benefit from it, I think Movies are wasted on it. My opinion.
  I think games benefit from it because eventually we will have solid state drives in all ‘consoles’ (and maybe most computers too), so the more space you have for shipping the game, the better.
  Although this can backfire as well, and you’ll hear it from me that the only reason I don’t re-play MGS4 is because I hate installation time, and for whatever reason they insist on installing segments at a time. Meaning when you finish a segment of the game, it installs the next one. This isn’t Sony’s fault, it’s Kojima’s. Frankly, I think MP3 would’ve been a lovely alternative for the audio. Yeesh.

  Getting back to my points though, I didn’t even mention the G25 during my most recent post. It was completely regarding the online store experience.

  I didn’t miss any point, but instead I simply made a counter point.

  That is that PSN isn’t concerned about saving money (I think we’ve established this) by using ‘cost effective logistics’. They provide people with a simple method.

  You’re right, no company does what it does for free. However, some companies fleece their customer base, and some companies use one customer base against another.
  I prefer the latter, meaning that, as Google does, a company advertises through a network, or gets a buck out of me for a song that I enjoyed while it streamed through a video.

  It happened with Sin! I bought the fucking theme song, off iTunes! There’s the money right there.

  Since day one I’ve been using my credit card to purchase PSN stuff, so I dunno what Edhe’s ranting about.

  Shame the third party devices on the Microblock are useless, eh? Does this console have a third party:
  Keyboard, Mouse, Camera, Harddrive, wireless adaptor or even a gun?
  No. Hell, when the console shipped, Microsoft had an embargo in place that prevented third party’s from producing a third party wireless controller.
  Please don’t try to belittle the value of third party support. The fact is that G25 aside, any PC peripheral works with my PS3. Fuck 360 and the proprietary hardware.

  Too bad a half baked…? What are you serious? The 360 was shipping with chips that kept burning out and you refer to what as half baked? Man alive, who’s stroking what now?

  The main arguement people make for the 360 is the games. Firstly, exclusive title do not exist on the 360 side of things, everything ends up on PC, and/or the other consoles. This is especially true of the high quality titles.
  Look at GTA, look at Halo. GTA started on PS, always ended up on everything.
  Same with Halo, started on XBox, eventually ended up on PC.
  Even Vampire Rain is getting ported, for christs sake.

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  H.

  09/05/2008 at 5:00 pm

  This post has been going on since 05′ only time will tell.
  ***
  Can my PS3 propel me into outer space? I know that my 360 with its crappy consumer electronics and ease of development wont, Im also screwed because its hard to pilot a vehicle without a G25 racing wheel.
  ***
  This is old and dated, Dooley will be arguing about how great the PS3 is even when the PS4 and XB720 come out.

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  Dooley

  09/05/2008 at 5:33 pm

  No, then I’ll just shift up.

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  edhe

  09/11/2008 at 2:06 pm

  360 price cuts means the arcade is cheaper than a wii, and half the price of the base ps3 unit.

  And still the best games and connected service of all.

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  Ayshin08

  09/11/2008 at 2:37 pm

  X-Box 360 price cut means that they could not make up a plan that can sell 360, so I think price cut is the only solution for them to sell more. More than the PS3 but I dont’ think more that the Wii, but I will still consider PS3 as a better console.

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  H.

  09/11/2008 at 2:46 pm

  Sony has recently effed the PS3. Getting rid of backwards compatibility was a BAD move. They turned so many people away with this move. I wouldnt have purchased a PS3 if it wasnt backwards compatible, That was one of its biggest appeals to me (I dont care about Blu-ray). Nice job Sony!
  *****
  Anyone who thinks PSN is going to remain a free service is a fool. PS3 came pretty close to bankrupting Sony. Sony’s other electronics have been strangled out in the past 10 years (they basically had a monopoly on portable media devices until mp3 players and the iPod) and they have, in the last 10 years, relied on their videogame sector to make up the difference. PS3 will NEVER EVER match the sales of the PS2 and will never come close. They cant rely on the VG market anymore. I think I have said this before but MS basically stole the PS2 sales model. Constant price cuts, a load of great titles, simplicity, ease of development, etc.
  *****
  BD-ROM is not the future of media storage either. Just because it beat HD-DVD doesnt mean its the future. Not many are going to give up thier DVDs for Blu-ray simply because it doesnt have the sex appeal that DVD had over VHS. A Blu-ray disc looks essentially the same to the common consumer as a regular DVD. compared to VHS, a big clunky black box, versus the sleek DVD format. Appearance sells product way more than actual build quality or capability does.
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  Im pissed that MS keeps dropping the price. The 60gig should have been a launch model. BS that they release it now. The 120gig has come down in price recently . . . to $149.99 . . . still too much for the size.
  *****
  BD-ROM’s read slow too, They can layer DVD’s to hold 35-50g but they read slow. Who cares about the number of discs if the game is going to load onto the HDD anyways.

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  H.

  09/11/2008 at 3:01 pm

  Exclusive titles do exist, Doolshist, PC is a vague term. What you meant to say was for Windows which, Oh my sweet lord above, MS owns! Dont be a tool and try to make this about the exclusivity of exclusive titles. You wont ever play Fable on your PS3. MS is still cashing in on the games and that makes it exclusive. Oh, and I generally prefer to play a game within a week or two of its release, I dont want to wait 6 months.

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  H.

  09/11/2008 at 4:34 pm

  @Ayshin08: Or Microsoft realizes that no one wants to pay anywhere near launch prices for a 2 or 3 year old console. Like I have said before, Sony did this with the PS2, Price cut after price cut. Sony built a system (PS3) that happens to be the top dog in terms of hardware but was and is so expensive to produce that it is out of reach for the average consumer ($400 is a lot given the economy).
  *****
  No one will outsell the Wii, The Wii will probably never have a game on it that makes it worth $250 to me. The Wii was cheap from the get go because its got hardware that wouldnt have been the cream of the crop last gen. The Wii is a gimmicky toy as far as I am concerned. It (Wii) has made me sour towards Nintendo.
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  A price cut is a plan to sell the 360. Why do people that are completely uneducated spew utter nonsense on this forum with no regard for a real debate. Sorry that instead of some silly marketing gimmick or a big name title announcement Microsoft wanted to get their system into more peoples homes by making it more affordable. $299.00 is pretty reasonable for a system with a 60gig HDD that can play games from the previous gen (unlike the new cheaper PS3’s, that cant play PS1 or PS2 games at ALL).
  *****
  I think it just shows how WRONG the PS3 fanboys on this forum are when Microsoft keeps adding things to their system and Sony is taking features away. Im going to giggle when you tools are paying for PSN Home when it is released because Sony can’t handle the production overhead cost’s.
  *****
  LOL

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  Dooley

  09/11/2008 at 10:44 pm

  As I said before, Horseradish, it’s about end user experience.
  You say, the Wii will never have a game worth investing $250 in a console. I say, the WiiSports that comes in the box is well worth the investment given the amount I enjoyed it with friends… that came to my house. That I met and dealt with on a real personal physical basis.

  In one post (as opposed to three) I will say this: I played Fable on 360, and I own it on PC. Better resolution, more content. Content you’ll never see because this ‘exclusive’ 360 title doesn’t have DLC. Don’t try to bullshit me by saying that it’s ‘exclusive’ because Microsoft happens to be the producer of Winblows. Windows is not the 360 platform. Hence it is not exclusive to the 360 platform.
  PC is a generic term that includes all brands of PC based hardware, Not 360 hardware.
  If we were going to argue semantics in this way then we may as well call up the Macin-junkies and piss them off with your generic terminology.

  Screw it, the PS3 is the better system, there’s a reason the 360 is on par, pricewise with the stock in a dollar store, and the people who would buy it are the same assholes who support Lexmark printers. Guess it must be a real printers machine.

  I don’t care about Sony as a company, I care about innovation. Something Microfuck doesn’t demonstrate. I mean jesus, even Windows was a platform that stole heavily from Apple.
  By the way, I noticed that play n charge kits are now thirty bucks and now include a battery cell. That’s pretty cool.

  From Metacritic, the top 360 games are all on PC. PS3 includes about half the list as true PS3 exclusives. Meaning I play them on PS3 ONLY. Not PS2 (Sony exclusive doesn’t exist). Not Wii (that’s cross platform). Not PC (no matter how generic, a PC isn’t a PS3, although it’s closer than 360, PC).

  Best of luck with your next arguements.

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  H.

  09/12/2008 at 1:12 pm

  To be honest dooley. “Exclusive” implies that it is exclusive to the given console brand. PC’s arent even considered competition to consoles so therefore your argument is null and void. Exclusive is amongst the three (or whatever number at the time) consoles. Therefore, games that are Xbox titles that get a port over to PC are still exclusives because a PC isnt a VG console and therefore the title remains a console exclusive. Your argument is stupid from a factual standpoint. I dont think Dell,IBM, or HP are concerned that they will lose sales to the PS3 or 360 because they arent competing products. Dont be so arrogant when you think you are right when you are just another PS3 fanboy.
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  Is innovation taking a bunch of existing technology and stuffing it into a box that costs more money to produce than you can charge for it? Blu-ray? Thats the biggest joke of all? I remember Sony people slagged the 360 design for lack of backwards compatibility and now Sony is phasing that out. Innovation my ass. More like trying to save a failing product. Not only is the PS3 an economic disaster, but I dont think Sony is going to fare well after this laptop battery fiasco. They are talking 1 billion in recalls and a largely unspecified amount in lawsuits from people who were literally burned. The point is you are going to have to pay for PSN at some point, or it will just suck so bad you wont be able to use it. Innovation, LOL.
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  The funny thing is that I actually own a PS3. I would put my bottom dollar on this, Dooley doesnt own a 360. Hes a Sony fanboy who dismissed it from day one. I will agree that the PS3 is a good system but it is in no way better. The PS3 is a gadget box that you literally need a slew of other gadgets to get full functionality from. 1080p TV set to actually get use of the Blu-ray = $1500+. Just the fact that the common consumer doesnt have a 1080p TV is proof enough that the PS3 is not better for the average person. I purchased a PS3 about two years after my 360. I finally got a PS3 because I got a 1080p panasonic viera for my birthday. I still use the 360 more.
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  The PS3 has a really dated controller. That must be the Sony innovation. Dooley I wish we could play a FPS together. You can use the PS3 controller and I will use my 360 controller. Their is a BIG difference. Your systems controller sucks. Maybe you could blow me away with that G25 though.
  *****
  Your argument is lame, peace.

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  edhe

  09/12/2008 at 1:52 pm

  Why are you bothering replying to Dooley, he’s proven himself an ignorant fanboi. Nuff said.

  Bottom line is that the ps3 is nothing close to what it was meant or designed to be. Sony’s complacency let MS & Ninty streak ahead and now they’re playing a bad game of catchup.

  Tretton himself said they’d never recoup the investment in the ps3 hardware in his lifetime, the R&D of it, the flop of it, certainly not recoverable through hardware sales alone.

  Sony’s been a sinking ship for a long time, they’re lucky that they get so much fanboi traffic as otherwise they’d be a dead company.

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  H.

  09/15/2008 at 2:18 pm

  Well I feel the need to respond when Dooley spews nonsense and continues to skip over any points that he has no informed response to.
  ***
  1) Do you honestly believe that PSN will continue to be a free service on par with XBL?
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  2) You agree on the fact that most games will be put on our Hard Drives instead of read from an optical disc. Why then do you think Blu-ray is so much better than DVD ? I would rather buy a product that was three discs on a tried and true product than on one proprietary disc (Blu-ray is propreitary just like the 360 HDD)
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  In truth the PS3 has no real hardware or software advantage over the 360. You might like it more but that doesnt make it factual.

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  H.

  09/15/2008 at 2:20 pm

  Well I feel the need to respond when Dooley spews nonsense and continues to skip over any points that he has no informed response to.
  ***
  1) Do you honestly believe that PSN will continue to be a free service on par with XBL?
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  2) You agree on the fact that most games will be put on our Hard Drives instead of read from an optical disc. Why then do you think Blu-ray is so much better than DVD ? I would rather buy a product that was three discs on a tried and true product than on one proprietary disc (Blu-ray is propreitary just like the 360 HDD)
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  In truth the PS3 has no real hardware or software advantage over the 360. You might like it more but that doesnt make it factual.
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  Sony filed for chapter 11 bankruptcy protection after the release of the PS3. At least I know MS will have the money to support its products in the coming years. The fact is Sony probably wont even release another system.

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  H.

  09/15/2008 at 2:21 pm

  Well I feel the need to respond when Dooley spews nonsense and continues to skip over any points that he has no informed response to.
  ***
  1) Do you honestly believe that PSN will continue to be a free service on par with XBL?
  ***
  2) You agree on the fact that most games will be put on our Hard Drives instead of read from an optical disc. Why then do you think Blu-ray is so much better than DVD ? I would rather buy a product that was three discs on a tried and true product than on one proprietary disc (Blu-ray is propreitary just like the 360 HDD)
  ***
  In truth the PS3 has no real hardware or software advantage over the 360. You might like it more but that doesnt make it factual.
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  Sony will probably file forchapter 11 bankruptcy protection before May of 09′. At least I know MS will have the money to support its products in the coming years. The fact is Sony probably wont even release another system.

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  Dooley

  09/15/2008 at 3:13 pm

  I think Steam will remain a free service, herego I think PSN will remain a free service.
  Is battle.net still a free service? Why do you find this so hard to believe?
  Frankly, I find it hard to believe that Microsoft suckered an entire generation into thinking this was okay.

  BluRay isn’t some experimental product. I’d rather have three discs than deal with a repeating install proceadure (because the system is limited to 120gb), but then I’d rather have one disc than three discs.

  Several developers have already been quoted as stating the PS3’s hardware has more and more potential, whereas they’ve also said the 360 is meeting its limits already.
  Furthermore (and stated earlier by me) the PS3’s technology is only Now being adopted by Intel as a computer CPU. That means the system was ahead of its time.
  Maybe the XBox 720 will be on par with the PS3, when it has four times the numbers on paper.
  In the meantime, twice the numbers just isn’t doing what it’s supposed to. However, anybody who knows anything about tweaking and tuning (computers, or cars) knows that it’s not just in the numbers.

  That proprietary comparison is the most half baked lunacy I’ve ever read.
  BluRay is the format choice of a system, as opposed to harddrives that are put in ’special’ plastic cases to make them proprietary.
  The technology hasn’t changed in the case of a hard drive. In the case of the BluRay (property of Sony) and HD-DVD (property of Toshiba), both formats were ‘proprietary’, but both were trying to become the ‘accepted standard’. The 360 hard drive isn’t an ‘accepted standard’ in storage methods, save for the 360 system. It’s a regular harddrive, that’s been crammed in a plastic case so they can double the price.

  Ignorance is bliss, Hashstain. Don’t worry, be happy. Your 360 is awesome. Microsoft says so.

  If Sony files for Chapter 11 before an American company, …wow! What would I be able to say to that? Time will tell.

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  H.

  09/15/2008 at 4:01 pm

  Awww you are a tender little guy.
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  Steam was developed by Valve, A company that mind you has NO hardware overhead, NO battery recall, and NO system that failed to live up to expected sales. Bad comparison, Oh and not only that but as far as content delivery goes, Steam SUCKS!
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  Blu-ray is not the format choice of a system, It is THE ONLY portable HD format therefore making it propreitary (you need a license to use the technology) Developers pay more to start development of a PS3 game.
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  I agree that the PS3 has better hardware, I think I have repeated that point before. I think Blu-ray is a joke
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  I might be wrong, But arent you limited to 250gig on the PS3 side if you want to keep your warranty?
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  You want to talk about lunacy . . . If Sony files for Chapter 11 before an American company, …wow! You do know that the USA rebuilt Japan after WWII, Sony wouldnt exist otherwise. Oh and we also brought Japan out of the middle ages in the late 1800’s. I think MS has a bit more staying power over Sony. Oh yeah MS is an American company. Dont be a hater.
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  Dude, I like the PS3. Your hatred for the 360 makes me hate you for being a close minded fool.

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  Dooley

  09/15/2008 at 4:40 pm

  Your mom thinks I’m tender.

  I’m glad you know who developed what. Moving to the points:
  250gb Warranty Issue? News to me, but Fat32 has a limit of 2 Terabytes according to this article: http://www.allensmith.net/Storage/HDDlimit/FAT32.htm

  I’m not going to waste my time defending BluRay as a format choice, I’ve stated before I feel BluRay should have remained a game format and HD-DVD, the movie format.
  The extra space is good for getting the game to the customer who can then install it and play it without a disc. Nothing’s perfect, progress is being made.

  BluRay isn’t proprietary because it’s The Format. That just make it a standard.
  I’m not saying it’s NOT proprietary, I’m saying there’s a stark difference between a format that improves a quality (BluRay), and a format that is repackaged for the sake of profit margin (360 Hdd).

  You agree that PS3 has better hardware? So what was this:
  In truth the PS3 has no real hardware or software advantage over the 360. You might like it more but that doesnt make it factual.
  That was your PREVIOUS post!

  Finally, if Sony shuttered before Microsoft, I’d be so surprised given that Sony owns half of Hollywood and Microsoft is busy making Seinfeld episodes in an effort to sell Winblows .

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  buncey

  09/15/2008 at 8:53 pm

  to quote dooley
  “funny…
  when you point out the truth they run for the hills… and the bad one-liners.”

  lol, funny how the person who is right and everyone else is wrong can be somewhat of an hypocrit when he/she feels that they want to be.

  We all knew cell was ahead of its time, thats a given,
  fact is the gpu was not, it was a modified pc card just slapped in to the system.

  The unified shaders on the 360’s gpu started being made in cards brought out after the 360,
  so the 360 was ahead of the competition where it mattered.

  agree it was said in the interview with the gears 2 developers that the 360 is reaching its top end, but depeneding on if you read the full interview there was lots you could interpret from the interview, in that there was always room to go higher with optimisation and the such.
  i would find a link for you but you obviously know where it is, and its late have come home from working in the states the passed few months and cant be asked to go hunting through sites.

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  Dooley

  09/15/2008 at 9:17 pm

  Holy hell. …January. Wow, eh?
  How’s work been?

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  H.

  09/16/2008 at 12:24 pm

  Well, My dad told me you were tender. When you took a bubble bath together.
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  In my last post when I said that their was no REAL hardware advantage I was refering to the current state of both systems. On paper PS3 does have a better processor but at out current level of game development their is no actual difference because programmers arent (not this year) fully utilizing cell. Therefore games look pretty much the same, Actually on a few occasions the PS3 version is worse looking because the 360 is easier to develop on.
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  I love that you keep dodging the “will PSN remain free” question with stupid nonsense answers (Steam LOL). Just like you dodged buncey calling you out about the GPU.
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  Dooley, all you do is use the same examples over and over and over again. If you think that MS will go under before Sony then you need to go back to school and take Economics 101. Windows still has a 90% market share as far as OS’s go. I work for the NYS Govt, Not a single computer here uses a non-windows OS or an alternative to MS Office. Hollywood and Sony BMG, Not exactly the cash cows that they used to be. Why do you think the MPAA and RIAA are absolutely ABUSING the DMCA. Those industries will not ever update their business models in order to profit from that fancy shmancy Internets. You shouldnt talk about things you arent informed about. Sony is in no way bigger than MS. Did I mention that Sony makes AWESOME batteries.
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  Dooley, I think that I finally understand what happened to you. You are one of those people that got suckered into the Sony = Quality thing in the 90’s. I know you are going to come back talking about Rrod’s and Vista crashes but I could care less. I didnt buy a 360 because of the brand name. I havent EVER had an Rrod (I know im lucky) and I use XP.
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  I know you have a thing for massive amounts of game content. IMO its stupid. I dont need to spend more than a full week of work time (38hrs) on a game. I loved Oblivion but seriously, 80-90 hrs to finish a game is too much.

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  Dooley

  09/16/2008 at 2:22 pm

  Given that I’ve been arguing this whole thing since before January, you can rest assured I’ve reused Many points, Haettenschweller.

  PSN will remain free because they’ll never Have to charge to make money on it. Advertising, license fees off downloadables, and the fact that PSN actually has a pay section you can opt into for ’special’ content, all amount to the reassurance that just as Steam before it, and QuakeWorld before that, the PSN will remain free.
  I mean jesus, do you think WiiWare will remain free to access!? Gosh I hope so!

  I went back n’ forth with Buncey long before you even knew this thread existed.
  Consider this. If the RSX is just some chip (as according to buncey), then it’s funny it’s doing as great a job as the ’super special’ chip the 360 uses (which allegedly put it ahead of the curve).
  That on top of the fact that the PS3 uses half the memory…

  I don’t dodge questions, I dodge your sisters phone calls.

  While I agree that Hollywood is not the cash cow that it used to be, Sony isn’t making movies, it’s making overrides. That means that every single BluRay being shipped, nearly every DVD that’s pressed, every single time that Sony Pictures logo is flashed, they made a buck.
  Also, it’s already been confirmed that the PSN is getting a movie and music videos service.
  That sounds like an updated business model to me… using them shmancy internets… hyuck.
  (Yet another reused point).

  Sony does make great batteries… they’re built into my controllers.

  I didn’t ‘buy into PS2.’ I bought into XBox. The controller was too big.
  They rereleased it. The power brick started smoldering. It was recalled.
  And the games Sucked! Not just some of them, but nearly all of them. Thank god for Halo… which Microsoft stole from the Apple users.

  Yes the 360 is easier to develop on. The original XBox was also infinitely easier to develop on than the PS2 (you can download the development kit today! For Free!). This is why XBox had games from Burger King, and PS2 did not.
  That’s also why everybody and their dog produces games of increasingly crappy quality on the XBox side of things whereas in the Sony world, the quantity isn’t there, but the quality is more consistent.

  I don’t look for quantity as much as I look for quality of experience. I play a lot of small, such as Pixel Junk or the recently rereleased Bionic Commando. I play Gran Turismo 5 and DiRT. Best of all, because I bought into the PS3 early on, I play all my old PS2 titles as well.

  Quality of experience, or the nickle and dime machine… everything in one, or everything sold seperately. Make explanations… or make excuses.
  I’m not being closed minded. I’ve looked at the facts. I don’t want to pay a lesser amount of money for lesser quality. I want good quality for a good price.
  The games are the same price across the board….

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  mzapl

  09/17/2008 at 9:28 pm

  Hey Guys,
  Any one here could help me to find a list of wireless networking adapters for Xbox360.

  Thanks a bunch

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  mastaspartan

  09/19/2008 at 8:27 pm

  final fantasy 13 is comin to the 360

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    Ken Savage

    09/20/2008 at 3:51 am

    @mastaspartan -
    what’s the release date? Do you know?

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  H.

  09/23/2008 at 12:20 pm

  Squeenix hasnt given an official release date for FFXIII but they said (at E3) that the North American version will be released on 360 and PS3 simultaneously with no content differences. I would guess sometime in mid 09′.
  *****
  “The system has the highest failure rate of any manufactured hardware to date in terms of percentile and pure number of units.
  Were Microsoft a car manufacturer how do you think they’d fare?
  A car that goes really fast and every one in three blows it’s headers. Oh yeah, and the doors cost extra and come seperately. But they attach really easily” – Dooley
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  Dooley has never heard of the 95′-99′ Toyota Tacoma. It has a 100% fail rate (the frame falls apart for no apparent reason). If MS was a car manufacturer indeed. Again, do some research child.
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  Im not going to keep arguing the same points about Blu-ray. I think its cute that PS3 has a little controller keypad now. And they want you to buy a system with a bigger marked up HDD. They took away backwards compatibility.
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  “That’s also why everybody and their dog produces games of increasingly crappy quality on the XBox side of things whereas in the Sony world, the quantity isn’t there, but the quality is more consistent.” – Actually Dooley the reason more games are developed for the 360 are – 1) It is an easier system to develop for and 2) Sony was overcharging for the development kit from day one, I remember reading about how they had to drop the price when the system came out because no one would pay for it. And how is the quality consistent. Didnt Civilization Revolution look better on the 360? Didnt HAZE suck balls? I could go on and on. Again, do your research. Just because someone makes a crappy game for a system doesnt mean that the system sucks. PS2 had a LOT of really crappy games.
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  Sony didnt update its business model, It copied XBL. Its called competing in business. PS2 had almost NO online support (from sony). Dooley, You love the PS3 and I think everyone knows it. And you can keep on making the same (stupid) points. To be honest, you already own an MS system, Its called Windows and it costs about the same as a 360. Good luck on playing all those Windows games that were on the 360 months before. Tool.
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  @mzapl – dont bother with wireless.

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  devilslayer987

  09/28/2008 at 12:10 pm

  I believe all you Xbox fans aren’t aware of the ” Red Rings of Death “. If your 360 has the RROD your 360 is screwed. It is a hardware problem which doesn’t allow you 360 to work anymore or if you call Microsoft they might send you a new one. 360 has a 29 percent failure rate and the PS3 has 0.02 percent of failure rate. I would buy a 360 if it wasn’t for the RROD.

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    Bill

    10/04/2009 at 4:44 am

    Oh, Devilslayer, all you have to do is not play the 360 for about 24 hours, and the RRoD will go away

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  H.

  09/29/2008 at 11:43 am

  @devilslayer987 –
  The RROD issue has been discussed extensively on this forum. Your numbers for both systems are incorrect. The 360 numbers are flawed because fanboys on both sides have changed them numerous times. The current failure rate is around 16-22% for the 360 and 1-2% for the PS3. Its not like ALL of the hardware is defective either. The 360 has some cooling issues that werent resolved before the rushed launch. Most of this is just bad case design. If you covered either system with a pile of blankets and left it running you would kill either one. My 360 hasnt RROD’d (it is NOT a launch model) and I game a lot.
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  I dont know why no one takes into account the age of the system owners with “system failure.” I dont think I know anyone under the age of 14 with a PS3 but plenty of children own 360’s (just go on live and play Halo3 or RSV2). I believe I havent experienced failure with my 360 because its on a stand alone table top with plenty of ventilation space, not in a corner, cramed in a bargain bin entertainment stand or on top of a bean bag chair. As long as you give the 360 room to breathe it will work fine.
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  Microsoft extended the 360’s warranty to cover “general hardware failure” aka RROD for three years. Its one of the only products I purchased a 3yr replacement plan on. At the prices these systems are now you should all go and buy both. $700 for both systems, the price of a low-mid range Dell. Ive sunk way more into PC’s that yielded less fun and more frustration than an RROD would.

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  mzapl

  09/29/2008 at 12:09 pm

  @H. –

  BLA-H BLA-H BLA-H,,, We get it H, you LOVE the 360 )) You come across as a pretty smart guy, why don’t you channel that cleverness towards buying a PS3 so your points of view get more exciting…

  Cheers,

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  edhe

  09/29/2008 at 1:11 pm

  @devilslayer987 – My Wii’s gone back for repairs twice as much as my 360.

  Suck that one and see.

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  H.

  09/29/2008 at 1:11 pm

  LOL – The 360 is better for me. I would be lying if I said otherwise. I dont need wireless as my PC and all of my systems are on a six shelf stand alone tower with my modem and router. IMO 360 does have exclusives, I consider playing a game a year before the PC version exclusive. Of course the release a year later has added content otherwise no one would buy it. I dont see how having one BR disc is better than 3 or 4 DVDs when you can install to a hard drive. You guys on the pro-PS3 side are nitpicking. I dont by any means think the 360 is perfect or even better it is just my preference and it does have things the Ps3 doesnt (live is better than PSN). The only thing that is 100% better about the PS3 is the hard drive.

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  edhe

  09/29/2008 at 1:18 pm

  o/ Hi H.

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  H.

  09/29/2008 at 1:27 pm

  Oh and Dooley, The Core/Arcade system comes with memory. Just had to clarify because you keep saying it doesnt.

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  killeral777

  09/30/2008 at 12:02 pm

  to h say the best thing about the 360 is the hdd tell me how is it better the fact that you have to pay 199.99 for 120gig when ps3 users can change it for a 300gig go do you homework then come back on this forum. 360 loosers

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  H.

  09/30/2008 at 12:59 pm

  @killeral777 – Eh, Killeral I should do my homework or well, maybe just maybe you should learn how to comprehend the english language before you post ever again.
  *****
  I said – “The only thing that is 100% better about the PS3 is the hard drive.” Maybe I worded that wrong (sarcasm). What that means broken down into laymens terms is “the PS3 hard drive system is better than the 360s” WOW. The numerical value must have confused ye. BTW Killeral the 120gig went down in price $50.00 – still not a great deal but better. I dont think Im the one who should do his/her homework.

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  H.

  09/30/2008 at 1:36 pm

  loosers? are we really such a relaxed bunch? Oh you ment LOSERS. Again, go back to comp 101.

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  Fin93

  10/01/2008 at 2:36 pm

  The Xbox 360 is better than the PS3(Which i will show later) because game developers do not currently have the time and computers to fill a 54gig blu-ray disc, so at the moment game length in both the ps3 and xbox are about the same.(9GB per disc)

  The processing power on the other hand is completely different the xbox has 3 sysmetrical cores from IBM which have been customised to give 3.2GHz from each core and the ps3 has a total of 3.2Ghz from its cell processor . The problem with the ps3 is that it has very small proccesors which get very hot during intense gameplay – every time the ps3 is used it taken to its limits were xbox can handle hourless gameplay because it has a whopping 9.6GHz! of computer logic . Some people think that you need 300GB on theri ps3 but the thing is you really don’t look at your home pc for instance, i don’t think anybody hasd used 300GB on their home pc. Thing wisly 120GB on a console is very reasonable.

  If you want a ps3 i suggest you look towards xbox because you will have more fun more games and definitly a better gaming experience.

  check out xbox.com for more details

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  mzapl

  10/01/2008 at 4:26 pm

  Nice try Fin93 … Stop smokin’ crack budy boy,,, 9.6 Ghz ))

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  H.

  10/01/2008 at 5:36 pm

  Dooley must be on vacation.
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  Fin, 9.6ghz? You cant just multiply. You get x% power of cores 1, 2 and 3 depending on the way the game was programmed. It is up to the developer to decide what cores will power what. The OS uses 0% from core1 and 3% from cores 2&3 (6%). The Cell actually has more processing power than the Xenos. Cell uses a primary PPE core and 7 single hardware thread SPE “helper” cores this architecture makes it harder to program for the PS3 because the programmer has to ditribute the tasks across the SPE’s. Its about processing efficiency not just raw power, that is the reason for the switch to multi-cores in the first place. But the bottom line is: the GPU is more important than the CPU for gaming. In terms of overall processing power the systems are about the same, they both get hot.
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  The real difference is user preference. Do you want the $300 machine with overpriced peripherals and better (paid) online support. Or the $400 machine with Blu-ray, third party peripheral support and a bunch of exclusives that keep migrating to the competition (FFXIII). You cant call either of these systems on processing power. It is all about preference.

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  Ayshin08

  10/02/2008 at 8:13 am

  Fin93, Nice… don’t know that… You are a way too ahead.. As far as I know 3.2Ghz is the threshold (for today’s technology ), with multiple cores on a single chip. Just playing around… If the Cell has 8 SPE’s and 1 PPE with 3.2Ghz each.. multiplying them will be…. What the hell. Peace.. All I know is that choosing a console is all about preference, experience, loyalty, games and how much is inside the pocket.

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  edhe

  10/02/2008 at 1:27 pm

  lol, 9.6GHz, you’d've thought he’d factor in the threading and put that up to 19.2GHz!

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  Ayshin08

  10/03/2008 at 9:35 am

  Yeah… Peace Fin93

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  H.

  10/03/2008 at 12:53 pm

  @Ayshin08 – The SPE’s dont have as much memory or power as the PPE and that is why programming for the PS3 is difficult. The SPE’s work together with the PPE (unlike the three cores of the Xenos) but dont have nearly as much power therfore the programmer has to choose what SPE will run what to maximize efficiency. Speaking of efficiency the numerical value in Ghz (i.e. 3.2Ghz) is misleading. You have to take efficiency into account as well as raw clock speed. Intel has processors that perform much better than AMD’s that are clocked at 500-750Mhz faster. Ive heard the new Core2Extreme Quad can hit 3.6Ghz on air.
  *****
  dual hardware thread as opposed to single hardware thread does make a difference in processing ability, this is one of the things developers dont like about the SPE’s of the Cell, they are single thread with limited memory.

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  H.

  10/10/2008 at 1:27 pm

  Wow, Dooley hasnt tried correct me yet. Well my work here is done I guess. I like the cute controller keypad Sony came out with BTW.

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  ADX

  10/14/2008 at 2:58 am

  The PS3 would be a great console if it had more system memory, and a better GPU, like the Xenos on the 360…
  The Blu-ray drive in another problem dealing with data transfer speeds and load times… Its a shame and a waste of what could have been a breakthrough system… Sony rushed it to the market without considering an adequate GPU for it… bottom line…

  The CELL processor only uses 6 SPE’s instead of the standard 8… to cut costs… The PS3 is very limited if you really think about it… Those 6 SPE’s can’t even run the game code.. They are just memory limited co-processors… It’s a joke and a blooper in the feild of computer science, just like the Sega Saturn was…

  Fortunately… I can play my Blu-ray movies on it… and I looks sexy…

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  edhe

  10/14/2008 at 8:51 am

  It’s butt ugly if you ask me.

  I asked a mate how his ps3 gaming was going and he replied ‘dusty’.

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  H.

  10/14/2008 at 12:12 pm

  IMO The 360 is the ugly baby. The PS3 is a sleek machine. The SPE’s can handle game code and if the developer uses them efficiently then games should run smoother. Cell is a technology that should have been tested in another market before it was put into a game console. It helps to have a familiar platform when you are trying to pump out games into a demanding market.

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  edhe

  10/15/2008 at 12:23 pm

  SPEs can’t handle game code. They handle code snippets which are taken from game code via the main CPU, which itself has the handle the random branching. SPEs by design do not handle much in the way of code itself, but are more for processing large chunks of data.

  So what’s require for cell programming is an extremely effective processing management system, it’s quite different from ‘traditional’ programming where you’re effectively running workstreams.

  I don’t think the ps3 will ever exceed at game code like other architectures can due to it’s small l1 memory and resource allocation requirements being the nemesis of randomly branching code, but it can certainly render pretty images.

  This is why if a developer leads on the ps3 (so it’s shortcomings aren’t as apparent by having a lead-on-360 versions) they are forced to write terribly efficient multithreading code. Whilst this isn’t the best or most creative use of time in a multimillion dollar development cycle what it does do is improve the overall code base on the games. More efficient code = more efficient games.

  That therefore means the title performs better on both platforms. I’d imagine people like Criterion are delighted that the 360 is so easy they can port the ps3 codebase using their interns instead of their A-squad and still have a better title than on the lead platform.

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  H.

  10/15/2008 at 4:23 pm

  Processing snippets of game code means that the PPE isnt processing those pieces of data. Efficient multithreading code? Speaking on a thread by thread basis the PS3 has one thread per SPE and the PPE is dual thread for a total of eight threads and the Xbox 360 has three dual thread cores for a total of six threads so in terms of hardware threads they arent much different. The real difference is the low memory of the SPE’s and that makes it hard to decide what processor is going to co-process what chunk of data and when. On paper (and that really doesnt mean much till a technology is perfected) the PS3’s Cell is plainly an efficiency machine.
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  Think about it in terms of a PC. Games arent (yet) designed to utilize multiple cores so using an eight core processor is obviously a big challenge. Most dual-core processors with more power will handle a game more effectively than a lower power quad-core. The catch is that the quad-core will make the dual-core its biotch when it comes to programs that were designed to utilize the multi-core scheme (CAD, Photo, and Design programs in particular). The point im trying to make is that if you realize the max potential of both systems (360 vs PS3) the PS3 has a lot more potential than the 360 (which by now is getting into the area of 75% of its processing limitations) therefore it has a bit more staying power. Im not saying that the 360 will be dead in a year, IMO its wont be replaced until 2010 but the PS3 will have a slight edge in, terms of graphics, once programmers and developers utilize the technology properly.
  *****
  When people compare these systems they make these grand assertions about the supreme and undeniable superiority of their chosen system. In terms of graphics and features they are pretty darn similar. Both systems have features that outclass the other systems similar feature. If anything Sony should be getting slagged for not being innovative enough . .. The PS3 was released a full year after the 360 and its not really a big improvement over the 360. Yes I am biased but I try to be fair in my assessments. Peace.

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  edhe

  10/16/2008 at 6:37 am

  Sony failed with the ps3’s ingenuity imho. They took a custom unproven chipset, slapped their BD on it and released it to the wild. Christ they even licensed that ram technology.

  I think everyone had higher hopes for the ps3, it could’ve been the xbox to the 360’s ps2. But it quite plainly isn’t and that’s why people mock them so, all their failed promises.

  NB there are only 6 accessable SPEs on the cell for games. There are 8 but one’s saved for guide, and one’s disabled. So in the end there’s the same threading available, but less cache memory on the ps3.

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  H.

  10/16/2008 at 12:03 pm

  Uh, No? . . . I dont know what numbers you are using edhe but um . . . welp . . .
  ***
  360 cpu – 3 cores x 2 hardware threads/core = 6 hardware threads.
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  PS3 – 1 PPE with 2 hardware threads + 6 SPE’s with 6 hardware threads = 8 total hardware threads.
  ***
  You are correct about the low memory of the SPE’s which is basically the reason the PS3 is a pain in the butt to develop for and why its real processing power isnt better than the 360.

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  Coyote13

  10/21/2008 at 5:40 pm

  Argg….which do I choose. XBOX 360 is at least $50 cheaper…but what if it falls on it’s butt within a year? Also, It’s been out since ‘05, how much longer will it last? Which is better investment of my very limited money guys? Please help!

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  edhe

  10/22/2008 at 1:53 pm

  Could be really anal with this and say it only has 2 threads based off the PPE, as it’s the central unit that needs to allocate & recover work from the SPEs.

  But yeah – i forgot the PPE in those numbers.

  Bring on the next batch of eurogamer comparisons \o/

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  edhe

  10/23/2008 at 8:12 am

  @Coyote13 – 360 – better versions of games, cheaper, more exclusives, bigger tv/film streaming library, soon-to-come awesome party dashboard system for great multiplayer games..

  Considering it’s so much cheaper as a base model it’s really a no-brainer. At 2x the price of the basic 360 model i don’t understand why anyone would choose a ps3 as their gaming platform of choice, unless they’re nutters like Dooley up there who’s sexually obsessed with peripherals.

  Also even if it does crap out within a year (unlikely) you have a 3 year warranty for the red ring, nevermind the standard 1 year warranty.

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  H.

  10/23/2008 at 10:31 am

  About the longevity of the systems. The PS3 is only a year younger than the 360 so its not like its going to fade away. Also, think about it this way, Even if Microsoft in say 2010 releases a new system . . . Do you really think Sony is going to keep pushing the PS3 when a new MS system is out. The answer is NO! As soon as Microsoft is readying its new system (or Sony) Sony is going to be doing the same. Bottom line is that as soon as Sony or MS makes a new system the other will follow and the PS3/360 will be obsolete. I wouldnt worry about either systems staying power. IMO you should go for the Xbox 360 . . . It has a bigger library of games and you can pick up a 60gig Pro for like $299 or less (ive seen them at FYE for $259 after a rebate). If you dont have a TV that supports 1080p HD then seriously dont bother with the PS3 because you cant use the gizmo they are justifying the $399+ price tag with . . . Blu-ray. Peace.

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  ADX

  10/25/2008 at 3:54 pm

  Hi H. and edhw……

  While the PS3 has 8 total hardware threads, only 2 of those threads accually executes game code…

  The 360 has 6 hardware threads, and all 6 will execute game code…

  so therefore, the 360 has 4 more hardware threads available to the entire game…

  What the PS3 has, are 6 co-processors (SPEs), much like a math co-processor used back in the 386 days… They are arranged to do specific jobs handed to it by the PPC… The SPE’s do not have direct access to the game code. They execute very simple instructions, mostly SIMD vectors, and reports results back to the PPC…

  Now if you are a PC gamer, you should already know, that SIMD vector processing is mostly handled by the GPU, which is essentially a grahics/math co-processor… CPUs run the game code, or game logic…. CPU’s are not made to handle intense graphics….

  A CPU would have to have at least 12 individual cores with complete access to game code… most GPUs now have at least 16 individual processors that are much like the SPE’s in the Cell… But these kinds of SIMD processors are not supposed to be superimposed onto a CPU as a co-processor…

  CPU’s are supposed to be General Purpose, not specialized, and based to the implementation os the PS3’s hardware architecture, have a GPU in a classic fashion underminds the point of increasing processing cores in the CPU… What hurts the PS3 is the face that those extra cores are not general purpose….

  I would be more impressed if the CELL could handle the graphics alone…. which it can’t
  Now, you can connect a series of PS3s together and render graphics, but that requires at least 3 PS3s, which translates into 6 execution cores and 18 SIMD processing elements….

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  ADX

  10/25/2008 at 3:54 pm

  Hi H. and edhw……

  While the PS3 has 8 total hardware threads, only 2 of those threads accually executes game code…

  The 360 has 6 hardware threads, and all 6 will execute game code…

  so therefore, the 360 has 4 more hardware threads available to the entire game…

  What the PS3 has, are 6 co-processors (SPEs), much like a math co-processor used back in the 386 days… They are arranged to do specific jobs handed to it by the PPC… The SPE’s do not have direct access to the game code. They execute very simple instructions, mostly SIMD vectors, and reports results back to the PPC…

  Now if you are a PC gamer, you should already know, that SIMD vector processing is mostly handled by the GPU, which is essentially a grahics/math co-processor… CPUs run the game code, or game logic…. CPU’s are not made to handle intense graphics….

  A CPU would have to have at least 12 individual cores with complete access to game code… most GPUs now have at least 16 individual processors that are much like the SPE’s in the Cell… But these kinds of SIMD processors are not supposed to be superimposed onto a CPU as a co-processor…

  CPU’s are supposed to be General Purpose, not specialized, and based to the implementation os the PS3’s hardware architecture, have a GPU in a classic fashion underminds the point of increasing processing cores in the CPU… What hurts the PS3 is the face that those extra cores are not general purpose….

  I would be more impressed if the CELL could handle the graphics alone…. which it can’t
  Now, you can connect a series of PS3s together and render graphics, but that requires at least 3 PS3s, which translates into 6 execution cores and 18 SIMD processing elements….

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  edhe

  10/26/2008 at 11:02 am

  ps3 R&D = Epic fail.

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  H.

  10/27/2008 at 11:39 am

  I think its been stated before that the SPE’s cant handle game code but I think you explained it much better ADX. Im really surprised Dooley hasnt been on here ranting about the 360’s lack of third party peripherals and telling us that we are wrong about everything.
  *****
  I think what ADX said about having to link three PS3’s together to be able to render graphics via the CPU says a lot about the CELL processor in general. It wasnt designed as a gaming CPU. The Xenos on the other hand was desinged as a gaming processor. It is not only equally (possibly more) powerful for gaming but is much more developer friendly when compared to the CELL.

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  edhe

  10/30/2008 at 10:00 am

  “Im really surprised Dooley hasnt been on here ranting about the 360’s lack of third party peripherals and telling us that we are wrong about everything.”

  Probably inserted his gear shifter and had to go to hospital.

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  H.

  10/30/2008 at 11:25 am

  Yeah thought I might add that Fable 2 is awesome. I just hope it isnt the pinnacle of holiday games. Dead Space was a let down for me, the missions are so repetitive and yet it got near perfect scores (a lot like GTAIV) Im just glad its not a console exclusive or Dooley would be throwing logitech gear at me with a catapult.

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  edhe

  10/30/2008 at 12:21 pm

  Logitech catapult!

  I’m looking forward to getting around to a lot of games, saints row2, fable 2, fallout 3, portal still alive, gears of war 2, banjo and especially Dead space – because that style speaks to me deeply.

  If i could just get over 500gs on UT3 and move on!

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  jkjnjk

  11/07/2008 at 9:42 am

  @Clay –

  so many xbox fanboys, ps3 rules i have both and i know which provails

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  big e

  11/29/2008 at 4:39 am

  woooooo ps3 is awesome so all you 360 losers shutup

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  Da rock

  12/02/2008 at 7:23 pm

  w/e xbox wins in the game section with gears of war, halo 3, (soon to be halo wars), and bigger hdd capacity.

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  ps3fiend

  12/12/2008 at 2:32 pm

  ps3 is going to blow the xbox 360 in 2009 with all its new relases: jak and daxter the lost frontier,drake’s fortune 2,the next ratchet and clank,sly cooper 4,big time revenge,cross edge,demon’s souls,infamous, and thats not even a fourth oh=f whats coming out?

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  bob

  12/13/2008 at 1:12 pm

  guys we all know how the ps2 started out not so good but look what happend thats whats gonna happen to the ps3

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  H.

  12/14/2008 at 9:46 am

  @bob

  PS3 started out not so good and is getting worse. PS3s Nov 07′ sales were bigger than Nov 08′ sales. Why do you think all these 3rd party exclusives are going multi platform. developers are going to go where the money is and once you have fully developed a game on the ps3s pain in the butt Cell CPU you can easily port it to 360.

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  el-rishid

  12/16/2008 at 7:15 am

  NINTENDO WII IS THE BEST. the prices are going down fast coz nintendo wants you to have fun and save money.

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  aaron

  01/18/2009 at 9:11 pm

  i think that the xbox360 is so better!!!!!!!! the over all sailes prove it! hardly anywone has the ps3 because its over 500 DOLLARS WHO WANTS TO BUY THAT. YA THE PS3 HAS INTERNET BUT who WANTS IT BECAUSE U HAVE TO HAVE INTERNET SERVES TO GET ON!!!. U PROBUBLY HAS INTERNET ALREADY!!!. i say its a waste… U SEE THE XBOX 360 IS WELL WORTH THE MONEY!!! THE OTHER DAY I PLAYED SOMEONE ON XBOX LIVE FROM ENGLIND!!!!!. and dont even get me started about the WII.. that thing is retarted!its also a wast of money,u have to buy all these STUPID gatchets to play certin games i mean come on these gatches add up u can buy a whole nother xbox360 with all the money u waste on the wii….

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  mzapl

  01/21/2009 at 8:22 pm

  Hey aaron,
  Learn to spell first you and then come back ))

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  unkown

  02/25/2009 at 7:28 pm

  the ps3 is gay the xbox360 is the best it sounds cooler ,its cheaper and more fun everyone bits off the 360 anyway

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    Unknown??????????????????????????

    01/25/2010 at 5:20 am

    The xbox is so bad they neaded 360 versions to make it ok not good only ok but when it comes to the Ps it only neaded 3 to make it the best of them all

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  mzapl

  02/25/2009 at 8:05 pm

  Hey guys,
  I am trying to transfer my Far Cry 2 saves from PS3 to PC. Any one here knows how?

  Greatly appreciate any feedback!!!

  Cheers,

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  Cojo

  02/27/2009 at 3:37 am

  @jkjnjk

  Oh,be quiet

  I have the two consoles and I played GTA IV in X360 and in PS3

  and I must say X360 way better and the update (The lost and damned) which is an add on to the game where you can have new weapons and cars ,missions , friends , which you don’t have on the PS3 umm sucks?

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  Cojo

  02/27/2009 at 4:08 am

  http://www.gametrailers.com/player/43632.html#comments_top

  Exclusive ~

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  Max Welton

  03/11/2009 at 8:01 am

  I have been a sony fan every since it first started. I played xbox and thought it was pretty cool at first. When halo came out it became a bit hit and sony took a down fall. My friend just bought the new 360 and has been having problems with it. sent it twice and still the same problem. I asked a game how works and is the most craziest dude over video games. I asked him my self in his own opinion which is better. He said PS3 is much better. Graphics are a lot better and look better right know with Killzone 2. Granted so far the 360 has some better games but it will all change. Sony is making the PS3 again. The controllers on the ps3 are still the same has the previous ps2. Those who are 360 fans im sorry to say that the 360 is a gimic it’s the same system with a new look same controllers nothing has changed about it. I own a ps3 and love it. have had it for 2 years with new problems no crashing, or ever freezing on m. Sony is taking over mac without any doubt. Sorry but it’s true i here there making more and better games right know through sony that will beat mac.

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  noodles

  03/11/2009 at 6:18 pm

  Hi Max,
  Your post was amusing.

  “The controllers on the ps3 are still the same has the previous ps2.”

  “360 is a gimic it’s the same system with a new look same controllers”

  So…obviously you’ve never heard of the phrase “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix”?? If a controller seems to appeal and appease most of the gamers, that’s a good thing right?

  I bought a 360 last year, and haven’t had any problems with it. Simply because the thing is so well ventilated it hasn’t had time to get hot enough. However, that does not mean that mine is not subject to RROD. Sony are making moves, but they’re slow and uninteresting moves (imo) at the moment. Even the 360’s list of games hasn’t really won me over, but I’ve got enough games for now to last me a while. Plus I’m still buying games for the PS2, which has become much more appealing that either next-gen console.

  In fact, even if the graphics are “better” does that account for a games (re)playability, story, music, controls, originality? I still play my SNES certainly not because of the graphics…

  And Sony and Mac? Totally irrelevant, unless you talk about gaming then yes Sony is beating Mac. But most people have worked that out anyway.

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  That Guy

  03/20/2009 at 7:52 pm

  LOL! for …… 4 years you guys have been fighting over which is better.

  I will tell you now, for all the people who think ‘ps3 sucks, more games for xbox, better game… blah, blah….’

  It’s not the consoles fault if the game is bad, it’s the developers. It’s like trying to develop a game both for mac and windows…. it’s one or the other, and since windows is more used, they develop a good version for the pc… and in 2 years get one for a mac

  The ps3 is better than xbox360 no question. People say bang for you’re buck and there it is

  If you want a console go get it, the only stupid thing is that sony got rid of backward other than that ONE downside, I can’t see why someone wouldn’t want one.

  I not giving you any of that ‘my mom has this many pimps, more than yours ’ crap.

  Now exuse me while I laugh at the 10 year old idiots saying that Halo 3 has the best graphics and it’s funner than Killzone 2

  P.S. I have the 60gb Xbox360 Kung Fu Panda thingy

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  Freckles

  04/02/2009 at 10:10 pm

  Well from what iv read the Xbox is aparently beta so with that thought ill go the xbox aswell

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  Freckles

  04/02/2009 at 10:14 pm

  That guy on 20th of march 2009 7:52pm DUDE WTF

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  H.

  04/06/2009 at 3:18 am

  The PS3 needs to do better than Killzone 2 if it wants to be relevant. The PS3 is closing in on Dreamcast status quickly. The Dreamcast didn’t hang itself, a lack of quality titles did it in. Its got nothing to do with specs or graphics. Install Base is more important.

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  julia ALL dAY

  04/28/2009 at 5:41 pm

  THE PS3 IS WAY BETTER THAN THE XBOX 360 AND PEOPLE ALWAYS SAY THAT XBOX 360 HAS MORE GAMES BUT HO THE F@#$% CARES

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  matt

  05/14/2009 at 2:50 pm

  notice in the very first topis, “games” the play station game is of the ps2 not the ps3. it cant be ps3 vs xbox360 if u put ps2 stuff instead of ps3

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  cody m60

  06/05/2009 at 5:01 pm

  I think thats there just as fun. i only went with the 360 cause it was cheaper. the ps3 comes with a 80g hard drive, u can buy an xbox elite with 120g hard drive if u really need that much space.but the ps3 makes up for not having the 120g space its a bluray as well. i was always a big ps2 fan until the 360 came out. an all u peaple that dogg the 360 are retarted, of course more people r going to have it (IT WAS ON THE MARKET BEFORE THE PS3)

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  Brooke

  06/10/2009 at 2:18 am

  Is this article about an Original Xbox and a Play Station 2 or an Xbox 360 and a Playstation 3. Personally, I’m for the 360. Sure, the PS3 has a blu-ray player, but I think overall, the 360 rocks.

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  Jesse

  07/26/2009 at 4:19 am

  Xbox 360 is actually th ebetter console in terms of graphics.

  You forgot to mention that the 360 has THREE graphic processors, where as th PS3 has just one.

  Therefore the PS3 processess 51-billion dot product operations per second, and the 360’s processor manages 100,800,000, so the Xbox 360 actually has DOUBLE the processing power that th e360. Trust me I know what I am talking about. I am a hardware developer and repairman.

  Xbox 360 has BETTER graphics;

  But also a better constroller for Racing games and FPS, because of it’s sleek design it practicly rests perfectly in your hand. The 360 wireless controler has a more advanced streamline-FPS/Racing teqnique. In simpler words, the thumb-sticks are in better positions compared to the PS3. It is basically easier to handle. But all this means when playing any game, whether it be an Action game like PROTOTYPE, a First-Person Shooter like Gears of War 2, a Racing Game like FORZA Motorsport 3 or a Fighter game like Soul Calibur 4, that every-thing youdo to control the character it 12x more advanced than ANY other controller, even PC.

  The Streamline is basically the center of the screen of the console, and that depends on the accuraccy of the controller. The Dualshock 3 is basically a bag of crap.

  Xbox 360 has a better controller than the PS3.

  Finally, 360 has a better selection for games, where as the PS3 is developed for hardcore game rate, but if fails at being ANYTHING!!!.
  Most game developers now turn to 360 first and design the games SPECIFFICALLY for the PS3. Because of it’s “Power”, PS3 has to develop the 360 games with a whole new base, and at a lower Frame RPS (Rate Per Second), which always means failure or a delayed release time. Most Game developers noticed this and are now ONLY designing games for the Xbox 360 than the PS3. So, 360 has better, more fun games with graphics that are shit-loads better than PS3.

  No, I am not a fanboy. I follow both consoles. If you ever need a new console, buy the 360. It is th ebetter console.

  Alone from that, xbox live kicks the shit out of Playstation online, in over 150 ways. Better games, better downloads, and…better everything…

  The 360 beats the PS3 in EVERY section.

  Take My work for it.

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  Jesse

  07/26/2009 at 4:30 am

  PS3 thinks that having more room an dspace is better. It depends on what space is USED and what is just for show.

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  RAYZA

  07/29/2009 at 3:22 am

  PS3 has it all over XBOX. Constant updates, Blueray, HDMI, Optical, being able to play NES,SNES,N64,SEGA,PS1,PS2. PlayTV with Twin Tuners to record in HD whilst playing or watching another program. Being able to upgrade with minimal cost, free online play, being able to dump games direct to the upgradeable to 1TB HDD with linux which xbox users thought they were awesome being able to mod their console with chips an so on to copy games which ps3 does not need only linux which can also run a windows emulator for MSN lol. PS3 cains the xbox in the millions of calculations there will be no need for an xbox when there is an xbox OS available for the ps3. We will play your games on our dual OS PS3 with ease. Xbox needs to squash a ps3 into their xbox case b4 their fiends without knowledge speak out of line.

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    Chris

    08/03/2009 at 8:37 pm

    The PS3 dont play ps1, ps2 games, the 360 supports sega releases also, where is the Sky support for ps3?? It DONT HAVE IT!! Considering it came out 3 years after why is it been outsold for??? Project Natal blows the PS3 for gaming out the water the things that are coming out on 360 say to the ps3 F*ck U all!!! PS3 = PHAILSTATION!!! Check these vids out !!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HluWsMlfj68

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2LSgNz8vbo

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      The Dude

      10/13/2009 at 2:45 am

      Dude, you can play Call of Duty, Rock Band, and Guitar Hero on the Ps3. I have them. Also, the controller is actually pretty good. Despite its appearance, you can hold it just as well as an Zbox or ps2 controller. BTW, Blu-Ray is actually *slightly* better than HD vid. And the PS3 interface is superior to XBOX360’s. Get your research right.

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    Chris

    08/06/2009 at 7:19 am

    Oh yeah great system ah the biggest game developer in the world is looking at not making games for the ps3 anymore heard the statement from the CEO from Activision. List me ten 3rd party titles that actually look better on the ps3 mate and EA games as they are owned by Activision so that means no Rockband, Guitar Hero or Call Of Duty what console is worth owning when you cant play the COD series. With HD coming to Xbox a better controller and many other things the days of the PS3 are limited as that is now a 2nd developer looking at dropping the PS3 as Valve dont already support it. Activision own EA games, ID software and other companies what a failure of a machine. Lets face it at the end of the day its called a GAMING CONSOLE not an entertainment unit. Plus in ten days Xbox will do HD vid and streams music why playing games in amongst other new things and has a mans controller not a paper weight!!

    http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/media/article6531367.ece

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    Chris

    08/09/2009 at 3:28 am

    Hey read this the xbox does one particular operation 10X more then the PS3 and the controller has it all over the PS3 better interface, better gaming experience, better online and has more memory line and dedicated ram for gaming and will soon do instant online stuff. Read this article below and u will see how there is really very little difference between the 2 but the 360 has the edge. When u add sky and instant online streaming the Xbox is better in every area, who cares about BLU GAY!!!

    http://www.itvidya.com/playstation_3_vs_xbox_360

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    Chris

    08/10/2009 at 11:44 pm

    First up I dont work at MCDS, secondly my gf actually bought my Xbox unlike u i have a women who buys me stuff and does nice things for me. And also its not all about graphics although 3rd party is always better on the 360. You have to pay for online on the xbox however it is a better service and offers you things first months before the PS3 and you also get exclusives like GTA4 the lost and the damned. With the new things coming to 360 it makes it more appealing such as Natal its so much more advance then anything that Sony offers. You cant deny that much.

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  sojoj

  08/02/2009 at 3:58 am

  Coming from a person who owns both, i dont think there is too much difference in the abilities of both consoles. I think they are both fantastic. It really comes down to personal preference and what suits you. Xbox 360 has the better online experience, with great fun. however if you are someone who doesnt really care about online stuff, the ps3 is probably for you, also because you dont hav to pay for online on it. The games on both are awesome, i especially love cod 4, halo 3 and the orange box.(However, i usually play more xbox than ps3, because of its online dominance)

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    Jim

    08/06/2009 at 10:41 am

    I play a lot of sports games, which system does the sports games look best on?

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  rayza

  08/06/2009 at 6:42 am

  did you actually read my post, oh and chris you really dont know much at all do you? The PS3 can play ps1 and ps2 games as well as use other OS such as Linux to emulate any other console or OS except crapbox. Please grow up do IT Cert. 1 at least and learn something new u think u already do.

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    Jordan Z

    10/26/2009 at 12:06 am

    1. you should take a couple more grammar classes 2. the ps3 as with the 360 can only play a select few games from their predecessors.

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  rayza

  08/06/2009 at 6:45 am

  oh i bet you would need somebody as a friend named Milo, even if he is interactive. imagine your life then with 1 friend on your crapbox lol.

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  mzapl

  08/10/2009 at 9:44 pm

  For those idiots who failed second grade math – Xbox 360 charges money for online experience. Multiply that by 3-4 years of ownership and you just paid for a brand new console. I own both consoles and as much as I HATE being ripped of by Microsoft for online experience, I love the games on my 360 Elite. However, my PS3 has better graphics and it has a lot more to offer. So stop trying to make sense of your cheapness! Just because your mommy and daddy bought you a $200 Xbox 360 or your McDonalds salary has limits does not mean you know shit. Stop listing specs VS specs that will never win an argument. Bottom line, if you truly love games buy both consoles and enjoy life or even better idea build a gaming rig, that’s right a gaming rig…. but it’s a different story… Any way I’m out! Crysis RULEZ and PS3 is better!!!

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    lawl mzapl

    08/15/2009 at 5:26 pm

    mzapl, what point are you trying to make? According to your drivel, $50 is too much to a pay a year for a good online experience. This is your knock on XBOX. You’re pros about the ps3 – that it has better graphics duurrghhh, sounds rather unconvincing when you follow that up with specs vs specs being unimportant. You continue your display of complete ignorance, stupidity, mouth-breathing, and contradictions by ripping people for being too cheap, suggesting they build a gaming rig instead. Anyone that builds a gaming rig would know you’re looking at upwards to $1000 + the price of constant pc parts upgrades. Yet $50 a year is too much to pay a year for what is considered an exceptional online experience. It’s safe to say you’re the one still sucking on the teets of mommy and daddy and projecting this onto everyone else. Perhaps you’re the one that needs to find a job if you believe $50 a year is too much, son.

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      Chris

      08/15/2009 at 11:37 pm

      I agree totally you pay 50 dollars a year or live but it is a lot more better then PSN, and the PS3 cos almost 300 dollars more in my country and for 12 months gold you pay 90. That is 3 yrs of online gaming right there and its a much better community and Sony continue to fail when it comes to majority of games as they are 3rd party. Also with Valve not producing games and Activision threatening to stop producing PS3 games that is alot of major titles to lose as they are the biggest games developer in the world!!!

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  mzapl

  08/16/2009 at 10:29 am

  lawl – right back at you buddy boy. Read my comment you ignorant yahoo. Both consoles are freaking awesome and don’t give me that bushtit about $50 a month is a good price to pay for online experience – its better be good if I’m paying top dollar. Point is that it’s a rip off! Yet I’m paying you paying and a millions of other people paying. I am demoting the Xbox 360 to second place because it’s a never ending battle of extra costs like a used car. I strongly believe Microsoft is taking advantage of us users like us and you know it – it’s just that you don’t know it because you don’t have a second console to compare to… end of story.

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    Chris

    08/16/2009 at 2:40 pm

    If ya whinging at 50 dollars a year for an online service that offers exclusives months before the PS3 then build a bridge. For example for Fallout 3 latest DLC has been out for months on 360 and its not even available on PS3 yetll!!! GTA 4 has two add on exclusives PS3 has none so yeah you pay for it but you reap the rewards and that stuff cost MS so much to do!!! And exclusive rights to Sky so stop crying or just dont play!!

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  bolt

  08/24/2009 at 12:46 am

  hey all u how think one is beter than the other it depemds on wat u lyk. u like free online ps3. if u lyk alot of games xbox 360 end of story so f@#k off

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  Bob

  08/26/2009 at 4:53 pm

  U guys need to calm down its just a damn gaming system pick what you want who gives a crap which ones better. If you have fun with it thats all that matters. Not like complaining like this is gonna change a thing

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    Ken Savage

    08/27/2009 at 12:02 am

    anyone seen the new PS3 slim?

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  JAY

  09/03/2009 at 5:02 am

  The PlayStation 3 is one of the most eagerly awaited gaming consoles this year. Besides, with the best graphics and sound technology integrated in this console, who wouldn’t want to know more about this gaming console or better yet, purchase one at the soonest possible time

  http://info-playstation3-vsx-box360.blogspot.com/

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  JAY

  09/03/2009 at 5:03 am

  The PlayStation 3 is one of the most eagerly awaited gaming consoles this year. Besides, with the best graphics and sound technology integrated in this console, who wouldn’t want to know more about this gaming console or better yet, purchase one at the soonest possible time?

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  Matt

  09/14/2009 at 9:52 pm

  First off blue ray, The blue ray disk has 50 gb, at first glance you may think this is better than the 8.5 gb dual layer dvds, but in fact it isnt. You see it takes a long to to load a blue ray dvd, so instead of waiting a long time for it to load it repeats some textures, sounds, all data several times around, being filled up by repeats. So therefore it is better to have dl disk then blue ray untill they make a drive that can read it MUCH faster.
  Its a fact that the xbox did outsell the ps3 just look at the sales on wikipedia or whatever.
  Games:
  Xbox has more games over the score of 8. Xbox owns the best first person shooter ever known to man…. Halo, the only game that comes close is either half life, crysis [not that good], or unreal tournament. And in my opinion i think gears is better than mgs, because all you do in mgs is sneak around, in gears your running around chainsawing, and putting holes in locust!
  Hardware:
  Xbox is more powerfull then the ps3.
  http://au.xbox360.ign.com/articles/617/617951p1.html
  Xbox live costs 50 dollars a year, features free videos, demos, you can download games, add friends, jsut some features dont want to go into detail.

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  Mouldy

  09/23/2009 at 6:00 am

  Ps3 and xbox 360 are both cool
  they both play games nicely
  they both can be used as a mediacentre
  they both can browes the net
  they both have online gameplay
  they both have audio chat between friends
  they both can play games from their older virsions
  they both have wireless capability
  they both play HD video

  but ps3 has Bluetooth and the ability to install on a 2nd partiton any linux distro by going to the ps website and downloading a boot loader
  http://www.playstation.com/ps3-openplatform/manual.html

  ps3 has a free network meaning free online play

  xbox360 can Only use about 200 older Xbox games
  but ps3 60gb all titals ps and ps2 (80gb suports ps2 games)

  with ps3 wirless functonality is built in

  and ofcourse HDVDV is taken off the shelf

  both consoles are good, but if ur any kind of of respectable geek .. get a PS3

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    JJ

    11/09/2009 at 10:17 pm

    Get your facts right before posting those kind of comments mate.
    My opinion is that both consoles have their strengths. I prefer XBOX360 but I can’t say it’s better than PS3 cause it isn’t. It all depends on the games, so on the bottomline depends on the developers to make good games for both platforms.

    I prefer Xbox due to the bigger online community and better online services. Even if I have to pay for it. It’s worth it.
    PS3 has a nice Blu-ray player that is very good if you don’t want to invest on a better player. It all depends on what you want from your console. Since I want a gaming machine without upgrading my PC every 6 months I guess that the XBOX360 is a better choice for me.
    If the PS3 had the amount of nice titles the XBOX360 has and the same online services I would pick the PS3 without looking back.

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  Bill

  10/04/2009 at 4:33 am

  CHRIS AND RAYZA, SHUT UP!!!!! The 360 rules over all and will dominate! Just face it that Americans like the 360 better! Quit arguing! Ninja, BTW, You SUCK! and most of you who are saying that microsoft usually adds extra charges, you are probably using a microsoft computer right now. so calm down, and go play the 360, cuz it rules! I am about to buy a 360 elite, so that proves, that if I am willing to spend 300 dollars (due to price drop), I actually, unlike you, trust microsoft! and also, you people who say the 360 sucks, you probably don’t even have one, so shut up!

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  Bill

  10/05/2009 at 12:50 am

  you all sound like such nerds. just, to make things simpler, buy a 360. nobody cares about blu-ray on a system, just buy a blu-ray dvd player. retards.

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    Mike

    12/07/2009 at 4:17 pm

    to Bill you have a guts to say something because you just know how to buy, i’m not looking after to those people who cannot afford to buy a lot of stuff like you…but common, use youre sense!!.. for me having both console is great!!.. you dont have to worry of choosing either one of them, what i can suggest is that you should count the population of your friends whose using a kind of console..then go for the larger one ..bill peace…

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  Mouldy

  10/13/2009 at 6:05 am

  for all the people who say that Xbox 360 has more exclusive games .. your wrong

  look for yourself, stats found in wikipedia
  PS3 exclusive: 159
  Xbox360 exclusive: 117

  the ps3 has more games but not by much..
  + as of above it clearly shows ps3 is faster (not by allot)

  my point is give me another reason why you love Xbox360
  that Not because you like a game

  thats just you liking a game so u get a xbox :S
  its not like u would get a console that didnt have games that u liked…
  we are talking here about 2 consoles not the awsome game you love

  im simply saying the ps3 has more functionality and capability and that its a good thing for all people using it

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    Jordan Z

    10/26/2009 at 12:26 am

    Ah yes, the thing about that is people think the 360 has more exclusives because people dont hear about low budget corner cutting games that look good… like 90% of the ps3 exclusive game library.

    I personally love the 360 controller because it “fits” into your hands and is comfortable, but the ps3 controller is just too blocky. Besides that the triggers on ps3 blow big time.

    And what are the 360 and the ps3? GAME CONSOLES. Of f***ing course we are going to look at what games are for what console.

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  TJAY

  10/13/2009 at 8:52 am

  UR ALL DICKHEADS i have both consoles, 360 is awesome for COD AND driving games coz 360 has mad controllers compare to lousy ps3 controller that is over sensitive, and PS3 is good for free online and blue ray!! doneeeeeeee!

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    Mr.Me

    10/22/2009 at 1:43 am

    Wow man ya oversensitive try LOWERING THE SENSITIVITY YOU DIP!!!!!!! and we got Gran Turismo AND Motor Storm so don’t give me your “better driving games” bull crap

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      Johno

      11/24/2009 at 8:22 am

      I’ll give you GT, but Motor Storm? LMAO

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  Jordan Z

  10/13/2009 at 11:16 pm

  I could argue with you all but hey, heres the facts

  Wii is at the top with 13.1 million units sold

  360 is 2nd with 12.7 million units sold

  Ps3 dead last with 5.4 million units sold

  End result: Sony shoud stick to television sets

  source: http://technabob.com/blog/2006/11/30/wii-xbox-360-ps3-sales-data/

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    Mr.Me

    10/22/2009 at 1:44 am

    You forgot that the Xbox was out a whole year earlier, and those results are wrong, its something like Xbox is half a million a head.

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  assault51

  10/17/2009 at 2:48 am

  Bluray is awesome Hd is dead

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    Jordan Z

    10/20/2009 at 1:53 am

    Bluray is 3x the price of HD, bluray wont last, neither will HD, somthin news gunna trump em both

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  person2456

  10/19/2009 at 2:49 pm

  wow people XD well the 360 rules i have one and iv had a ps3 the online is free but it sucks 50 bucks is for a YEAR ok blu ray player u can just buy one xbox live is great they got netflixs instent view thar comeing out with twiter face book all that goog stuff and u can get into partys with ur frends wile ur all playing diffrent games download old games bottem line the 360 is alot funner the ps3 is a lonly consel not much fun XBOX RULES

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  Odoyle_Rrules

  10/20/2009 at 4:15 pm

  I don’t know but since I hooked up a keyboard & a printer to my PS3, Now I do 90% of my office work on my PS3, surf the net, check emails, manage bank accounts, & printing off big documents, on the couch, flat screen on the wall in 1080p & wireless. Then I just switch over to game mode or movie mode during my break time. What I’m trying to say is I could’ve not have this type setup without the PS3. Don’t get me wrong, I still have my 360 and my kids like it. We have to understand that both systems are pretty much equal on the game side but the PS3 just goes beyond. Oh my PS3 is the very 1st version that came out with 60gb. I went to a local electronic store, picked up a 420gb generic laptop hdrive for less than $150.00, popped it in now I have a 420gb monster PS3.

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    Jordan Z

    10/25/2009 at 11:41 pm

    One question: exactly how much of that 420gb hd do you actually use?

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  Odoyle_Rrules

  10/26/2009 at 12:37 am

  Total space is 500Gb but with the overhead format gives you about 420Gb usable space. So yeah, I have used about 215Gb already. I use the drive mostly for movie torrent files I download off the net. I like watching movies using my PS3. It makes low quality files look like HD.

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  twizdid

  10/28/2009 at 7:18 pm

  yeah all admit 360 is pretty good if you like having to send in your 360 everytime you get a tiny scrach on your laser eye and you get four or three rings of death. or you break the little peice in the usb port and the same three rings pops up and your forced to send it back to the company for the third time.

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    Jordan Z

    11/10/2009 at 2:52 am

    Yeh same with the ps3, you know the exact same overheating issue but without the catch phrase…. and I dont know how you managed to scratch the eye with a disk without trying to… i mean it’d be pretty dam hard to do, what with the disk tray being outside of the console and the eye being inside the console…

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  sxmaxchine

  10/30/2009 at 1:21 pm

  y is it that evry1 only looks at the graphics. i mean the 360 has better ram, a better cpu, and also is half the price and rly who cares about that very litle diference between blu-ray and HD. also the remote is better on the 360 cause it looks cooler and it is light enough, also 360 has xbox live wich is a lot better then the ps3 internet also the slim ps3 is mega small and will over heat like crazy and the other ps3 is just huge, the only downside for the 360 is ring of death and people only get it cause they over play it and burn the cpu.

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  Odoyle_Rrules

  10/30/2009 at 5:49 pm

  I say, if u need more than a game console, get the 3. Oh, I over play my ps3, too, no ROD’s.

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  tippmanpaintball

  11/17/2009 at 4:01 am

  The ps3 is technically more powerful, but The 360’s games are just a bit better and I would never have bought a system that didn’t have the best games.

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  Mr. Dude

  11/24/2009 at 6:31 pm

  I am now border line retarded after reading all these nerd comments. Buy both you poor ‘tards!

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  majesty

  11/26/2009 at 5:51 am

  geez, u all really make it hard to choose between the two consoles. sounds like fans are just rooting for what they own and never had the opponent. i will probably go with the neutral player that has units and just buy both. i want a blu-ray anyways, so i would be stupid to spend $200 on bluray/dvd, when i can get so much more with a PS3, including a gaming system. then i could get the 360 for the online experience.

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  TRENT

  12/07/2009 at 12:06 am

  I have both a xbox 360 and a ps3.I like them both and play them both but, overall i think ps3 is better.

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  regmil92

  12/08/2009 at 8:00 pm

  All i kno is that xbox 360 is way better than ps3 because i have both of them. Even tho ps3 has more games xbox 360 has better visual content.

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  attica

  12/13/2009 at 12:49 am

  games.ok here it is.the ps3..yes it has more games because they just put out the most pointless games like stick a dick in a donkey.so if u want a good game get a xbox.

  movies.if your a gay ps3 owners blue ray ask your self how much is a bluray movie? 40 bucks right? xbl is 50 bucks.????so dont even start about xbl being 50 bucks. i can go on half.com and get 1 year of xbl for 35 bucks..lets see thats 2.9166666 $ a month.and i dont even buy movies so idk about gayray

  netflix.why do u need to load a disc into your ps3 to even watch that? xbox you just start it right up.and even the menu is gay it takes 10 sec -1 min to load up the page xbox none.

  Now there are three critical performance aspects of a console:
  Central Processing Unit (CPU) performance.
  Graphics Processing Unit (GPU) performance
  Memory System Bandwidth

  now lets look at this cpu performance
  - The Xbox 360 CPU architecture has three times the general purpose processing power of the Cell.

  now the GUP performance
  - The Xbox 360 GPU design is more flexible and it has more processing power than the PS3 GPU.

  and not first but last the Memory System Bandwidth
  - The memory system bandwidth in Xbox 360 exceeds the PS3’s by five times.

  When you break down the numbers, Xbox 360 has provably more performance than PS3. Keep in mind that Sony has a track record of over promising and under delivering on technical performance. The truth is that both systems pack a lot of power for high definition games and entertainment.

  However, hardware performance, while important, is only a third of the puzzle. Xbox 360 is a fusion of hardware, software and services. Without the software and services to power it, even the most powerful hardware becomes inconsequential. Xbox 360 games—by leveraging cutting-edge hardware, software, and services—will outperform the PlayStation 3.

  and just read this please its Playstation 3 vs XBOX 360 – A Game Developer’s Perspective
  http://www.hardcoreware.net/playstation-3-vs-xbox-360-game-developer/
  the end ps3 is gay

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  BC

  12/14/2009 at 7:10 pm

  Hey,
  The new PS3’s (slim) are not backward compatible with the PS2 games?
  Why is this so. That is really crappy they should have at least called it PS4 then and said not compatible with PS2 games.

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  attica

  12/17/2009 at 6:13 am

  i need to say a few things again! one WHO made your computer? something sony made?no maybe apple but not sony. and if you really want to talk about out sold.as you read on sony might have xbox sold out but who are the true gamers? not sony maybe because they brake and you can not play them.i remember going to best buy when the ps3 came out and i herd all the “hype” about them.well so yes curiosity killed the cat and all the ps3s were dead so i could got see what they were all about tell i found one that worked. Well i got my paws around that gay controller and wow the analog sticks were busted?????whys that???? maybe because they just plain out suck.now my wife’s cuz has a ps3 and we bolth have cod mfw2 and my god really sony? you need to put the analog sticks so close together that i cant look around because my thumbs hit eachother.and why do you need R1 and L1 to aim and shoot.probley because the R2 and L2 you need to press the damn buttons a mile before they work. i have smashed my xbox 360 controller like a red headed step child guess what it still works.my cuz in law he has a junk yard of dead ps3 controllers because they just suck.now lets look at the Wii

  Wii is the most well-known, the most profitable and the best-selling console. Also, Wii is a console that has been able to expand the reach of video games to a broader group of people but that has a consequence for the Nintendo console: Wii gamers spend less time playing than other gamers. Xbox 360 console is the leader in this sphere: Xbox gamers spend more time (days per month and minutes per session) playing in the console.

  1.According to a new study from GamePlay Metrics and Nielsen that has been published by several websites, the revolutionary console from Nintendo is found in more homes than any other console, but it is used sporadically, although it has achieved the objective of becoming a social console (for example, it is a great option to play with the family at home). The study is based on surveys made in the United States.

  Due to the focus on social activities, Nintendo Wii is widely popular but, at the same time, gamers seem conditioned to use the console to play with others (not alone) and maybe for that reason they spend less time playing on this console. On the average, Wii was used five days during December 2008, while PlayStation 3 was used 6.8 days. But Microsoft won this survey: Xbox is the leader with 7.1 days.

  Other data indicate that the average playing time (a game session) for the Wii is 58 minutes, while PlayStation 3 has an average time of 64 minutes. Once again, Xbox 360 has a longer average time: each session lasts 78 minutes.

  2.Measured in megaflops, gigabytes and other technical benchmarks, the PlayStation 3 is certainly the world’s most powerful game console. It falls far short, however, of providing the world’s most engaging overall entertainment experience. There is a big difference, and Sony seems to have confused one for the other.

  The PS3, which was introduced in North America on Friday with a hefty $599 price tag for the top version, certainly delivers gorgeous graphics. But they are not discernibly prettier than the Xbox 360’s. More important, the whole PlayStation 3 system is surprisingly clunky to use and simply does not provide many basic functions that users have come to expect, especially online.

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  mzapl

  12/17/2009 at 7:15 pm

  attica:

  Wow man! Microsoft has its logo tattooed on your rear bottom buddy boy,,, that’s just sad! Learn how to spell and go back to your trailer! By the way I have both consoles (Xbox 360 and PS3) and I love them both! “Aks yo cuz if he agrees with your comments?” … Idiot!

  P.S. Don’t come here anymore.

  Yours truly mzapl

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  attica

  12/17/2009 at 8:37 pm

  gayS3 is not the king of the living room….and the gayS3 and the kingbox is just about the same.its just like the evo8 and the sti.just about the same but the sti is less power kinda like the gayS3.

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    mzapl

    12/18/2009 at 1:37 am

    Hey,,, what did I say about coming back here? Stop your fan boy BS. No constructive feedback no comments!

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  marchofthenoobs

  12/31/2009 at 7:00 pm

  @ everyone that is saying blu-ray is stupid:
  blue ray is the future. theres no way around that. they hold over 2 times as much data as the discontinued HD-DVD’s and over 5x as much memory as a traditional DVD. just use the new Final Fantasy game as an example. the PS3 version is on 1 disc, and the X360 version requires 3 (!) discs to hold all the information just for the game. idk about you, but I dont want to get to a certain point in the game and get a message saying, “disc completed, insert next disc.” also, eventually movies will stop being put on regular DVD’s and only use Blu-ray. And guess who owns blu-ray? thats right, its sony. In case you havent heard, sony also makes the PS3. and the PS3 is competing with the X360 for best console. so, do you really think Sony is going to give theyre disc format to MS? I dont. and neither does Sony, which is why theyre not. MS is gonna use standard DVDs and HD-DVD’a until standard DVD’s are discontinued completely and the only option left is Blu-ray, at which point theyre gonna pay sony a crapload of money for the rights to it. and any1 saying Bluetooth is also stupid: I dont really want to use MS’s $60 headset. what do I do now? I suck it up, cause thats the only option. but with the PS3, I can use the same headset I have for my phone! no money spent at all! yea, very useless. Wi-fi: for someone whose system is in a different room from the router, hard wiring makes no sense. PS3 comes with free wi-fi in the box. 360: an extra $100! grand total: X360: $460 PS3: $300. and the PS3 has better hardware internally. Hardware Failure: you wanna know what % of X360’s have had to go back to MS for repairs? total, out of every system ever made, 54% of X360s have had to go back to the factory to fix the RROD. 54%! idk about you, but thats scares me. I dont want my system to fail on me! which leaves only games. Sure, X360 has a great lineup: Halo 3, Gears of War, Forza Motorsport 3, Left 4 Dead… but the PS3 is starting to make a comeback: MGS4, Killzone 2, Gran Turismo 5 is coming out in mere months, infamous, resistance 2, and the smash hits uncharted 1 and 2. and NATAL? 2 years from now, when it comes out, if it works the way it says, X360 will have the advantage. but will it? do these things ever work like theyre supposed to? we’ll have to wait and see.

  oh and btw, I have a Wii (baaad decision on my part) so I am in no way a fanboy. I’m stating the facts. PS3 is by far the better deal. and is now making a pitch for “better” system with its new game lineup.

  Long, but factual.

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  mzapl

  01/01/2010 at 1:38 am

  BRAVO! marchofthenoobs!

  I love your valuable feedback. Blu-Ray is amazing. However do not forget to respect the competition my man. At the end of the day PS3 is better but Microsoft did a very good job with xBox as well.

  Cheers,

  Happy Holidays!!!

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  Buncey

  01/02/2010 at 12:34 am

  Marchofthenoobs
  your somewhat incorrect. You don’t have to buy a $60 mic for the xbox 360, you could just use the wired mic that comes in the box with the system.
  As for blu ray being the future, somewhat correct. It looks that way with high speed internet being continuasly improved it’s not hard to imagine Hd-VOD could establish itself before blu ray does. It will be a long time before DVD is replaced by blu ray however, when I speak with older people alot of them don’t even know what blu ray is an when shown they have no interest in upgrading from DVD for the moment.
  I enjoy my blu ray but the selection pales in comparison to DVD.
  If m$ wanted blu ray sure sony would oblige, possibly something from competition laws in the EU might mean Sony have to provided they are paid of course.
  I’m sure they would more than likely just use their own format for the next xbox though.
  There has neverbeen anything wrong with changing discs it never hurt final fantasy VII at all. In fact mgs on ps3 was far worst an I didn’t mind that. It was only one disc but 10 minute installs, blu ray obviously doesn’t necessarily mean no long waits at certain intervals in a game.
  Also where did you pluck 54% failure rate from, estimate oractual figure from m$? Thought so, no as factual as you led everyone to believe.

  I hate to piss on your parade, but disc changes have been around since playstation and never detracted from experience. If other people really don’t care about buying the numerous accessories for the xbox 360 then I doubt you are going to change minds with your fanboyish outlook on things. Mr public will buy accessories when needed or desired, e.g wi fi is not needed by me a hard connection works best so ethernet it is, an it works for nicer than wifi, if needed I could buy wifi but I don’t and seeing as it wasn’t built into the xbox I’m sure the xbox is cheaper for it.
  The nintendo wii is really not that bad either, mario galaxy is amazing, and the wii usualy is the only talked about console by any person over the age of 40. It is far more appealing to most over 40’s than the ps3 or xbox 360. Sorry if your over 40 an don’t fit into this demographic, but I’m sure that youl catch my drift.

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  websurfer09

  01/15/2010 at 8:09 am

  my friends got just the red ring of death on his xbox and he is not too happy about it. i found a pretty cool slideshow of the xbox vs. ps3. you guys should check it out: http://www.powershow.com/view.php?id=P1258403340IZnWT&t=XBOX+360+Elite+vs.+PS3+Slim

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  Armani De Classe

  01/15/2008 at 5:46 pm

  haha, Xbox 360 is a great gaming unit. You got that correct… people just don’t understand that space and speed are the determining factors of future machines. The major lack of the xbox 360 is the ability to expand be on 8.5 gb DL Layer dvds which really can only technically store 7.6gb after format. GAMES have been reported for Nex Gen to take up the next layer of Blue Ray; each layer is 25 Gb.

  Some poeple think HD DVD is awesome, yes is excellent for speedy downloads, bill Gates favorite!! However, these xbox units don’t render games in HD DVD. HD DVD is trying to have a come back with a Triple Layer DISC total of 51 GB. Once again, all the currect HD DVD player won’t support Triple Layer, farthermore Mircosoft wanted DVD/ HD DVD DISC, that only worked in the xbox HD DVD Drive. Dropping the profits off the map, and losing 3 major film productions. HD DVD will survive only for its quick download times for future online gaming purchases ( microsoft’s last attempt to prove they can keep up with PS3 technology) One problem everyone must have internet to get these ADD Ons that game couldn’t fix on the DL DVD.

  PS3 has a huge advance, first placing all games on a Blue Ray disc. People complain about the cost of games, but only PS3 users get what they paid for since most of the profit is costing producers more to place these games on Blue Ray. Mircosoft gaming is easier, but higher profit. Producers are starting to worry about space, meaning these gaming producers will have to try new tricks to render light and background images.

  Second, PS3 has enabled their user to swap Hard Drives, a standard 2.5 sata that you can pick up at BestBuy. Pick up a 40 Gb PS3, spend $139 for a Western Digital 250 GB HDD. xbox may want to rethink this option.

  Third, PS3 is the works of a flawless Operating System. This only means PS3 becomes a MultiMedia Center that can mount BlueRay Media. Ouch!!! Keep an Eye out for YDL 6.0 that include over 2000 new packages of fixes for the PS3. Wireless Wifi with WPA 1&2 Support/ WEP and Open. Wireless Controllers and Bluetooth enabled. Gain of stability and fixes for sound with java applets. Did i meantion Bluetooth is a great future technology for wireless. 7 different profiles can be connected to one tranmit source. This means four wireless controller, 1 bluetooth headset, 1 keyboard w/ mouse, and 1 remote. damnn!!

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  NINJA

  02/19/2008 at 6:10 pm

  F… all this! Let’s just all accept that PS3 is the king of the living room. HD DVD just lost the battle of the format and they are on there way to meet BETA. X360 defected to using Blu-Ray tech and they will replace their HD suckasss drives in the next 360 versions. If 360 keeps competeing, 360 will be inSTINKed!!!
  shitBOX3shitty should PLAY B3YOND!!!

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  Stricker

  02/23/2008 at 2:58 am

  dude u f…k all this /just admit hat that the Xbox 360 is better. It has better games,more games and it’s doing pretty good in sales. the first couple of months ps3 came out most of them where all defected. they where slow and overheated fast. the only reason u probably like it is that the price drop ooooo wow big deal

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  chad

  02/27/2008 at 1:21 am

  the ps3 has already beaten xboxs sales by 50,000 consoles not including the defected ones

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  twizdid

  10/29/2009 at 4:15 pm

  you wtnt to talk about defected look at your 360 its so fragile im scared to take it out of the house.yeah i guess the 360’s failure ratings aredo blow the ps3 out of the water.im mean who doesnt sending there 360 back every time the eye gets a scratch on the laser or the little chip inside the usb port breaks and suddenly your 360 gets three rings of death or four.but lets not forget the two to three week wait for the system back.

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  jimbone

  08/07/2009 at 5:44 pm

  You are wrong. It has only outsold xbox 2 months since it came out.

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